10-19-2012, 09:51 PM
(This post was last modified: 10-20-2012, 03:08 AM by FireIceTalon.)
(10-19-2012, 09:36 PM)kandrathe Wrote:(10-19-2012, 08:54 PM)FireIceTalon Wrote: Of course you would...{incoherent ranting}You rail against me, but you don't refute Popper?
Where is the experimentation? How is the analysis of the past falsifiable?
Quote:Snap out of your dream world.I can't help but snicker whenever you say this. It's just so ironic. You are an ardent fan boi of a failed student, who lived off hand outs by pandering to pseudo-intellectuals, and calling the liberalism/capitalism (the system we have) we have had these past 250 years a fantasy, while the supposed system that is the "savior of the proletariat", has yet to materialize in any distinguishable form. Which is the fantasy? Who is deluded?
I merely need to sit on the shoulders of giants like --> The Fantasy of Marxism -- by Leszek Kolakowski
I won't waste anymore of our time. You are clearly off the deep end.
Incoherent is just a short way of saying "this truth is an inconvenience to my ideological agenda, so I won't address it".
Again, you argue against something that I'm not even arguing. Where did I, or Marx for that matter, ever state that capitalism is a fantasy? Oh wait, I didnt. Nor did he.
What IS a fantasy is YOUR lolbertarian ideology and moralistic filled horse-shit - that you think we can all live under capitalism or any class system and all just be one big happy, honky dory family. It is YOU, not I, that lives in some Ivory Tower and has blinders on to how the world really is. Nor does capitalism's mere existence for the past 250 years mean that it is a justified and legitimate system - an appeal to ignorance fallacy. Truth is, capitalism has already failed, and multiple times - the only reason it still exists is because the State always saves it whenever it falls into crisis, as demonstrated in 1929, 2008, and every other economic collapse under it. Or it turns into Fascism as seen in Nazi Germany, Italy and Spain - and as it's slowly doing in Amerikkka and Greece right now. It does NOT exist on its own merits or because it is the best possible system. In fact, it fails everyday, considering about every 3 SECONDS, someone dies from hunger or malnutrition - that's about 29,000 people per day. There is demand for food, and capitalism ain't delivering! How about all the people who lack shelter, adequate clothing, decent medical care/education (both in the first and 3rd worlds)? And what about all the people, soldier and civilian alike, dying in all the wars? Whats up man, I thought this was supposed to be the best system possible? What's going on bro? Slavery existed for a long time too, guess that made it an legitimate system also, right? Your bourgeois logic only shows how hollow and flimsy ruling class rhetoric is, and to be frank, how even they cannot think for themselves. The "free market" does their thinking for them. Yuck.
Bottomline: Marx will be respected by scholars, intellectuals, economists (even non-Marxist ones), and social scientists for a long time to come, and his work will be taught in universities around the world.
Rand will be remembered as that off the deep end, crack-pot nihilistic woman that wrote shitty novels about billionaires going on strike because of high taxes, and worshipping a serial killer who raped, murdered and dismembered a 12 year old girl. Only the most sociopathic, far-right tools like yourself respect her. Ideologically, she is worse than Hitler. At least Hitler cared about SOMETHING, even if it was fucked up, as opposed to Rand, who didn't care about ANYTHING except being as selfish and destructive as possible all in the name of individual freedom. Fascism is bad enough, but she was something much worse: a complete nihilist, whose ideas if literally put into practice would lead to the destruction of humanity faster than a thousand nukes. And you like this piece of shit person? It is YOU that is off the deep end comrade, not I. The sooner she is discarded into the dustbins of history, the better.
Anywhoo, think I'll just put ya on ignore now. Was a pleasure destroying you.
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"Your very ideas are but the outgrowth of conditions of your bourgeois production and bourgeois property, just as your jurisprudence is but the will of your class, made into law for all, a will whose essential character and direction are determined by the economic conditions of the existence of your class." - Marx (addressing the bourgeois)
"Your very ideas are but the outgrowth of conditions of your bourgeois production and bourgeois property, just as your jurisprudence is but the will of your class, made into law for all, a will whose essential character and direction are determined by the economic conditions of the existence of your class." - Marx (addressing the bourgeois)