09-12-2012, 03:54 AM
(This post was last modified: 09-12-2012, 04:34 AM by FireIceTalon.)
(09-11-2012, 05:36 PM)Jester Wrote: Marx said the same thing 160 years ago. He was wrong then, and I'm pretty sure Mr. Ford is wrong now.
-Jester
False, very very false. Marx was in fact, very much in favor of technological advancement, and this is one of the reasons why he denounced the 'utopian socialists' that were born out of the French Revolution - they wanted a perfectly constructed agrarian society straight out of their heads, and nothing more. They were very much like the capitalists of today: very reactionary and living in a Idealistic dream world.
What he WASN'T in favor of, was the exploitation of man by man as a means of said technological advancement. "Communism deprives no man the right to appropriate the products of society, all that is deprives him of is the right to subjugate the labor of others by means of such appropriations"
Workers in many developing nations struggle to put food on the table, what makes you think they can afford an education? The countries we "exploit" may get richer, but all that wealth goes straight to the top, it says absolutely NOTHING about how that wealth is distributed. Multi-nationals are reaping the benefits of Imperialism and outsourcing, not the working class. But as a Marxist, I am more concerned with who controls the means to production than I am material wealth or income. Lastly, workers of developed nations only compete with workers of developing nations because both live in a Capitalist framework that exploits and divides them along ethnic, cultural, or patriotic lines - the truth is, their class interests are one and the same, and diametrically antagonist to the multi-nationals that essentially own them.
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"Your very ideas are but the outgrowth of conditions of your bourgeois production and bourgeois property, just as your jurisprudence is but the will of your class, made into law for all, a will whose essential character and direction are determined by the economic conditions of the existence of your class." - Marx (addressing the bourgeois)
"Your very ideas are but the outgrowth of conditions of your bourgeois production and bourgeois property, just as your jurisprudence is but the will of your class, made into law for all, a will whose essential character and direction are determined by the economic conditions of the existence of your class." - Marx (addressing the bourgeois)