(06-05-2012, 03:39 PM)RiotInferno Wrote: I agree. I think you'll be hard-pressed to find a true fisherman who doesn't care about conservation. There's a fight to be had with big corporations and over-fishing the oceans / major lakes. You won't find any allies if you start yelling at the little guys.
I think it is obvious I was not talking about anglers but about the floating fish factories with their 1 sq.km. nets they drag over oceans floors etc.
(06-05-2012, 03:30 PM)kandrathe Wrote: While I'm a pretty hard core libertarian pro-capitalist, ecologic damage and sustainability are an area where I lean left of the greens when it comes to protecting and preserving our ecosystems. As I often do... I was listening just yesterday on my drive about the return in Minnesota to life sustaining agriculture (we can extend that to aquaculture), and the local food movement here in the Twin Cities area. A growing number of producers and consumers are finding there is more to food, and successful agriculture than the cheapest cost, and highest yield per acre. It also needs to be tasty, and not toxic.One sad thing about the enviroment is taht for some reason it is seen a left wing to care about it. This has to stop.
Juts include the impact on our planet in the price of goods, and you can continue with capitalism.
Capitalism as it is now is a system that will stop working, because it only works when people consume more and more. It favour having more people around and it favours there being poor and rich areas, where the poor areas are used to deplete of natural resources because the people living there have not time to protest like we do in te west because they are concnerned if they can feed their children the next day.