(11-21-2011, 04:56 AM)kandrathe Wrote: We live in a country where some of the anti-wallstreet protesters (representing the poorest 99%), once kicked out of Zucotti Park, layed up in a $700/night luxery hotel. I'm feeling that some of them are more at the upper 90% level, than at my level.
Wait, are you telling me that in this mob of millions of people, at least a handful are... hypocrites?
Oh, well, nevermind then. I obviously can't support a movement like *that*.
-Jester
(11-21-2011, 07:37 AM)FireIceTalon Wrote: Why do you think most Socialists in general, are so anti-religious and anti-nationalist? Because these are social constructs that divide people, create conflict, and imply that some how someone of a particular ethnicity, country or religion is different or even superior to that of another. Which they are NOT, though many of them like to think they are.
When one is trying to flog your own version of the "one true division" among people, class affiliation, it only makes sense to compete against the others. Every other type of division can be suitably denigrated as "false conciousness."
The other groups say similar. Churches love the idea that your background, race and creed are no relevance, but other religions are beyond the pale. Nationalists think the nation is an organic, patriotic whole, but of course other nations are to be resisted.
And, of course, a certain kind of unreconstructed Marxist believes that it doesn't matter what religion, race or country is yours, but the bourgeois everywhere are reactionary pigs who need to be overthrown.
Same crap, different piles.
-Jester