Unemployment, and so on

[kandrathe]

This is a fact, and I won't even bother debating with you on it, because it's so blatantly obvious.

And, other than your claims that it to be so, where is the evidence to show that "Marxism" remains relevant for today's class struggle. There is more evidence to show that over time, with limited amounts of "socialism", class has become more and more irrelevant. In those countries that embrace capitalism, and limited socialism, the standards of living are well above those who have attempted the more radical Marxian path. It is not self evident, and that is why he asked you to defend it. Your defense of Marxism's relevance to the workers of today is that "it is a fact", and a fact that is "blatantly obvious". Although, the actual evidence is that Marxism, in your own definition, is a completely failed ideology, because wherever it has been attempted it has been subverted into something not Marxist.

As for class struggle.... As I've said, it's not so bad being poor in America. It's not great, but better than being poor in Africa, India, or many other places. We can talk about wealth disparity between the 1% and the 99%, but to me, this is a minuscule problem compared to the disparity between the US/Canada, and Africa. It's not so much that we want to be comfortable, like Bill Gates, but rather we don't want to be uncomfortable, like dirt poor starving in Sub-Saharan Africa.

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The Real 99%

Dialectical Materialism, like it or not, is a legitimate philosophy that deserves attention and consideration.

"Hegelism is like a mental disease -- you cannot know what it is until you get it, and then you can't know because you have got it." -- Max Eastman, Marx and Lenin (1926)

But I'll tell you what. Let us keep the status quo intact for the sake of proving me wrong. Lets stay on the same course we currently are, and keep making the corporations more powerful, the rich richer, the poor poorer, and start up as many wars on so-called terrorism as we can.

As if we had any power to make that happen.

And continue to keep hoping and praying for change to come. When humanity is done wiping itself out in the process, and the environment is all but wrecked, I can sit back, laugh, and say "told you so" from the grave. Cheers.

So, you are spiritual after all.