11-07-2011, 08:32 AM
(This post was last modified: 11-07-2011, 08:50 AM by FireIceTalon.)
(11-07-2011, 05:49 AM)kandrathe Wrote:(11-06-2011, 08:29 PM)FireIceTalon Wrote: ... But equating that with hating the country is dubious. Truth is I'm indifferent about it.It doesn't come across that way. You use the word "hate" quite often to describe your ideological adversaries (most everyone to the right of you). I mean, you must realize that you are on one end of the bell curve here, yes? In order to even have a reasonable conversation with 98% of the world you're going to need to move pretty far out of your comfort zone.
From your general stated opinions, I've just gathered that you find the American political system "a joke". You've no love for Capitalism, or the American economic system. And, you "hate" at least half the population, if not more. Plus, you find the majority of Americans are "idiots" who vote either for a single issue, or the person they'd like to have a beer with.
Your description is a pretty negative indictment of the US. My only intent was to poke holes in that picture with some facts, and not to convert you into a flag waving patriot.
Alot of it is heat of the moment man. For as much as I criticize the Tea Party for instance, I can't say I hate each and every one of them personally. I do not know most of them. Do I disagree with their views and ideology? Yes. In fact, I would even go as far to say that it is Tea Party ideology that I scorn, not really the Tea Partiers themselves. Once again, I don't know many of them personally. I would guess many of them are normal good, hard working citizens that mean well, who happen to be misguided regarding the circumstances around them. Many of my rants really depend on the mood I'm in. I can go over the top sometimes. Dont take everything I say to heart, lot of its just piss n' vinegar
.You are absolutely right about my feelings toward capitalism though. Hate isn't a strong enough word to describe my feelings toward this most evil, barbaric and cruel system, which has impoverished, killed and caused more human suffering than I care to know. The best capitalism will ever get from me is that I view it as a necessary stage in history to develop the world industrially, until the world finally wakes up and comes to its senses, realizes just how barbaric it is, and we transfer into a true democratic system of LIBERTARIAN socialism. And yes, I do believe this will happen. Sadly, it will probably take another 200 years+, so it does not matter for us. But yes, I have nothing but contempt for the system that is capitalism aka barbarism. The true heroes of history are the common man, like you and me, the ones we never (or rarely) read about in the history books. One day we will be emancipated. Power to the people, peace to humanity.
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"Your very ideas are but the outgrowth of conditions of your bourgeois production and bourgeois property, just as your jurisprudence is but the will of your class, made into law for all, a will whose essential character and direction are determined by the economic conditions of the existence of your class." - Marx (addressing the bourgeois)