Mists of Pandaria discussion

[Kevin]

A stream of abilities and talents that weren't designed fully considering the consequences - no cohesion.

Sorry and this is different from how WoW has always been?

I have NEVER seen a time during the life of this game where there wasn't a large portion of people bitching vehemently about talents, content, lore, leveling speed, gear itemization, length of dungeons, gear availability (it's too easy to get, it's too hard to get).

Hunters for example have had MASSIVE play style changes with every expansion sometimes with just mid expansion patches. Same with paladins. Same very likely with most classes. I stopped paying close attentions because well things changed so much all the time with all the classes.

Lissa pointed out "oh and the new racials are overpowered again" which just says that hey everything is the same as it was before the last time there was a new race it was OP. The last time there was a new class it was OP.

You can argue they have had 7 years to learn, but the numbers argue they have. They kept gaining subscribers for 6 years! Show me another game that KEPT GROWING for 6 years? Not staying stable, but GROWING.

I don't recall if it was you or Lissa that talked about how well put together all their other games were. Yeah, that's why D1 had 8 patches while it was a "current game" that made several major balance changes. Tile changes anyone? These boards have stories of "I'm quitting D2 because this last patch RUINED THE GAME! What were they thinking! This breaks everything" How many patches did Starcraft get that completely changed strategies that people used and introduced something else that was completely out of whack?

Blizzard's history clearly demonstrates that they are more than willing to try something new, aren't afraid to break something and re-invent the wheel and usually their changes result in them getting more money and gaining more fans.

The fact that some people have paid ~ $1200 (84 mo * $13 / per month average + ~$200 for the purchase of WoW, TBC, WotK, Cata) is actually pretty astounding. I've quit the game 4 or 5 times and come back and still had fun every time I came back even if I didn't stay. The fact people valued WoW enough to not buy 4 or 5 other games a year or not go to a movie that month, etc speaks a fair bit about how "awful" the game must have been.

From the beginning Blizzard has demonstrated and outright said that they were making the game more and more and more casual and accessible as time went on. They haven't really blinked at any other MMO that came out, despite several of those games being a fair bit better. They managed their inertia. The fact that Diablo 3 actually has them worried enough to bundle it with WoW speaks volumes.



tl;dr summary. I could probably search this very forum and find similar posts to what you just made about this game that are 2,3,4,5,6 years old.