An Avenger in 1.10

[Rataxes]

Yeah I'm not saying you can't deal with triple- or quadruple-immune bosses, just it'll take you quite some time (don't reckon your Charge will be very strong, or are you planning to max it?), whereas my vengeance more or less ignores the immunities.

yes you can shop for a cruel of quickness (good luck though, just finding a cruel elite is hard enough, I know because I've tried) however there are a lot of problems with that approach:

Haven't shopped anything in v1.10, but finding Cruel elites wasn't *that* hard in v1.09 with a lvl 80+ character. What does worry me is the fact that the only -10 speed weapons or below with decent damage are Elite War scepters, Cryptic Swords and Scourges, and an Elite Scepter is probably going to cost more than my stash can hold if it spawns with any +skills what so ever, that leaves Scourges and Cryptic Swords both which have pathetic min damage. Even though I know min damage doesn't matter in the end, I feel uncomfortable with such a huge damage range.

I'll put my hopes to Gambling. Rares can be quite powerful in v1.10 as you said, and gambling Flails and War Scepters at lvl 60-70 aren't overly expensive, should be able to land a decent rare sooner or later that way. "Of Quickness" can spawn on Rares btw, at least I see no reason why they can't, since they always could.

Now that is said and done there is no question that vengeance/conviction is superior to vengeance/fanaticism in terms of damage/time, I ran the numbers before I started the character and came to the same conclusion you did

Well then that's settled :)

a) Better leeching
Better speed = more monsters in stunlock = better crowd control
c) Much higher cold length due to pumping vengeance
d) Better damage for other physical skills such as charge

I agree with A and D. It's questionable whether you'll get better speed or not with Fana, like I said, with as little as 60% IAS I am only one frame behind you, and if I do get 110% IAS, your speed advantage is no more :) As for stunlock, do you reckon you'll have enough damage to stun Hell monsters? I doubt even I will, Hell monsters in Players 8 average more than 50 000 HP now, dealing 4200 dmg on average is going to be tough for you, and even for me it's going to require a pretty good elite weapon. Of course, Players 8 might not be what you had in mind, or? Don't know how much of an advantage the added cold length is, since you'll likely concentrate on one target till it's dead, as long as it stays chilled long enough to receive another blow, I don't see how it matters.