my connection with the tea party
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Mmmm. Bait. Ok, I'll bite. You knew I would.

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(09-24-2011, 09:07 AM)FireIceTalon Wrote: So after watching the recent Republican/Tea-Bagger debates this past week....
I'm sure you do know that tea-bagging is a sexual act. Your crudeness is noted.

Quote:...all I can say is, scary. VERY, VERY scary.
Whereas, warrant-less wiretapping, extraordinary rendition, secret prisons, and the suspension of due process for anyone captured throughout the whole world, including our own citizens is entirely normal and not to be worried about.

Quote:When the issue of healthcare came up and one of the candidates (I forget which, I think it was either R. Paul or Newt Gingrich) asked should we let a 20 year old die if he/she has no proper coverage and most of the crowd said yes. Are you kidding me? Have we really sunk THAT low? These people should be tarred and feathered....

Let's re-frame the question. A 40 year old, single, "wealthy" man is driving his pickup truck around on bald tires. He knows he should spend the $1000 to get them replaced, but he wants to use the money to shower gifts on his girlfriend. Should the government give him new tires, and/or force him to buy new ones? Were he to crash, not only would he be injured, he might injure or kill others. Life is filled with decisions like this, and we'd be locked in rubber rooms (at our own expense) if we were to expect our government protect us from all of our own bad decisions.

When it comes down to the negotiation of care, ALL of my poor friends get the care they need, but maybe not the care they want. I'm reminded of a close friend who is a very poor artist. She needed a $30,000 (rock bottom price) surgery and didn't have insurance or that kind of money. She ended up negotiating a deal where she would make a sculpture in exchange. Barring that, her cadre of artist friends were willing to step in and help out too. By far, most of my personal experience and the stories of "denied" that I hear of are from people with insurance where the insurance company refuses to pay after the fact.

The question is not "Would you treat him?" The questions was, "Should someone be forced to treat him at their own expense?" And, people always get confused by this... insurance <> health care. Insurance is a financial product where you abate risk. I can afford to pay $13500 per year for health insurance to protect me from the rare chance I'll need millions of dollars of health care.

Quote:We are on the verge of having a racist & fascist, immigration & Muslim hating, social security privatizing, anti-intellectual, militaristic, hyper-nationalism ideology supporting, Nation-building/oil seeking, health-care and education cutting, creationism loving/science denying moronic dillweed as our next Commander in Chief.
Really, dill weed? With Beavis and Butt-head as the critic, how can it err. Specious venting deserves no better. And, I'm sure there are no extremist positions in the Democrat ranks either.

But, let's examine the "Tea Party" and their "extreme" positions... Quinnipac Poll on the make up and attitudes of the Tea Party.

Quote:Time to move to Canada or France. I seriously cannot watch these clowns without almost regurgitating my previous meal.
A phrase repeated by our electorate ever since George Washington stepped down, and they need to consider which unqualified loser should be our next President.

God save the Queen. Or, the French... I guess.
”There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Hamlet (1.5.167-8), Hamlet to Horatio.

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my connection with the tea party - by eppie - 07-16-2011, 07:11 AM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by LavCat - 07-16-2011, 07:58 AM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by shoju - 07-16-2011, 04:09 PM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by Frag - 07-17-2011, 01:27 AM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by Lissa - 07-17-2011, 03:11 AM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by DeeBye - 07-17-2011, 05:05 AM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by --Pete - 07-17-2011, 06:38 AM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by Lissa - 07-17-2011, 02:54 PM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by Maitre - 07-18-2011, 12:42 AM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by --Pete - 07-18-2011, 01:33 AM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by Nystul - 07-17-2011, 04:11 PM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by Frag - 07-17-2011, 11:50 PM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by DeeBye - 07-18-2011, 03:22 AM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by --Pete - 07-18-2011, 04:26 PM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by --Pete - 07-18-2011, 11:22 PM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by Jester - 07-18-2011, 05:40 PM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by --Pete - 07-18-2011, 06:20 PM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by Jester - 07-18-2011, 10:21 PM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by Jester - 07-19-2011, 05:00 PM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by DeeBye - 07-20-2011, 04:17 AM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by --Pete - 07-18-2011, 02:04 PM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by DeeBye - 07-18-2011, 04:49 AM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by --Pete - 07-18-2011, 05:16 AM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by eppie - 08-07-2011, 07:21 AM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by --Pete - 08-07-2011, 11:12 PM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by eppie - 08-09-2011, 07:59 AM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by Zenda - 08-08-2011, 12:25 AM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by Jester - 08-09-2011, 10:47 AM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by Zenda - 08-13-2011, 12:02 AM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by Zenda - 08-13-2011, 01:59 PM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by Jester - 08-13-2011, 06:01 PM
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RE: my connection with the tea party - by Zenda - 08-14-2011, 12:04 AM
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RE: my connection with the tea party - by DeeBye - 08-15-2011, 03:29 AM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by eppie - 08-15-2011, 09:04 AM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by eppie - 08-08-2011, 12:18 PM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by kandrathe - 09-24-2011, 03:17 PM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by Jester - 09-25-2011, 12:36 PM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by Jester - 09-25-2011, 02:39 PM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by eppie - 09-26-2011, 07:52 AM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by Jester - 09-25-2011, 01:26 PM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by Jester - 09-25-2011, 04:37 PM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by Jester - 09-25-2011, 08:18 PM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by DeeBye - 09-26-2011, 02:29 AM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by Jester - 09-26-2011, 12:48 PM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by Jester - 09-26-2011, 02:20 PM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by Jester - 09-26-2011, 03:34 PM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by Jester - 09-26-2011, 03:50 PM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by Jester - 09-26-2011, 04:31 PM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by Jester - 09-26-2011, 05:36 PM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by eppie - 09-26-2011, 06:48 PM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by Jester - 09-26-2011, 11:21 PM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by Jester - 09-26-2011, 11:41 PM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by eppie - 09-27-2011, 08:29 AM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by eppie - 09-27-2011, 10:46 AM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by Jester - 09-27-2011, 03:06 PM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by Jester - 09-27-2011, 03:44 PM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by Jester - 09-27-2011, 04:18 PM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by Jester - 09-27-2011, 04:39 PM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by Jester - 09-27-2011, 05:21 PM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by Jester - 09-27-2011, 09:31 PM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by eppie - 09-27-2011, 03:58 PM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by Zenda - 09-27-2011, 04:12 PM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by Tris - 10-05-2011, 03:08 AM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by LavCat - 10-05-2011, 06:36 AM
RE: my connection with the tea party - by eppie - 10-05-2011, 07:54 AM
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