07-11-2003, 08:05 PM
LOL, sorry to burst into this fine conversation uninvited, but wasnât the main inquiry in the thread lost? It begged the question, "why the experience nerf?"
It seems that blizzards way of dealing with problems is immediate results. They see people rushing and cowing and no matter how much they change the game, people find the "sweet-spot" to gather together and gain experience. So what do they do? Make it impossible to gain ANY experience for EVERYONE :D . Oh yes, and ruin the cow level by making the cows impossibly hard to kill and making their drops useless. Now whatâs the point of a secret level if you get slaughtered and there is no redeemable value to be earned from there? Why even keep the cow level in anymore? Why not just get rid of it? I mean, its illogical to the game anyways, much like the Alien Hive of Hellfire. Blizzard sees people rushing and gaining experience by just standing way off-screen. They change the way shared-experience works. I guess I'm just saying that the people who are in charge of the development of experience in the patch just don't get it, and probably never will. They have good ideas, like the party sharing, and bad ideas, like nerfing the cow level and the experience penalty. I might of done it differently, but then again, I really don't know.
RE: The PvP thing
Analogies can be made of almost any action to anything, such as PK'ing to politics. Who cares about analogies? If you want to talk "reality", talk about the underlying motives for PKing and the fundamental morals of a person willing to do it. Also, take into account that people don't always view their character on-line as a extension of themselves, but of an alter ego they wish to manipulate, much the same way when certain people get behind the wheel of a car, they become maniacal drivers. I personally don't have any problem with PK'ers or PK'ing. I actually enjoy their addition to the game, however I feel certain skills should either not be able to work in PVP, or there should be a timer. Trigger hackers and hydra pkers are very unfair, but then again a 5-second timer, as has been suggested, won't stop a Town/World Portal trapper, now will it? When I pk'd my favorite tactic was to "help" people get from act 1 to 3, so they had my trust. Then I would send them a "trapped" town portal in Mephisto's lair, surrounded by the three Council Members, Mephisto, and plenty of whatever else was running around. Usually, people would die in less than one second unless they were using maphacks auto-leave ability when their hit point got too low. I loved Pk'ing and saw it more as a sport, like hunting geese, then a morally wrong thing to do. I would expound on myself, but atlas I have company.
It seems that blizzards way of dealing with problems is immediate results. They see people rushing and cowing and no matter how much they change the game, people find the "sweet-spot" to gather together and gain experience. So what do they do? Make it impossible to gain ANY experience for EVERYONE :D . Oh yes, and ruin the cow level by making the cows impossibly hard to kill and making their drops useless. Now whatâs the point of a secret level if you get slaughtered and there is no redeemable value to be earned from there? Why even keep the cow level in anymore? Why not just get rid of it? I mean, its illogical to the game anyways, much like the Alien Hive of Hellfire. Blizzard sees people rushing and gaining experience by just standing way off-screen. They change the way shared-experience works. I guess I'm just saying that the people who are in charge of the development of experience in the patch just don't get it, and probably never will. They have good ideas, like the party sharing, and bad ideas, like nerfing the cow level and the experience penalty. I might of done it differently, but then again, I really don't know.
RE: The PvP thing
Analogies can be made of almost any action to anything, such as PK'ing to politics. Who cares about analogies? If you want to talk "reality", talk about the underlying motives for PKing and the fundamental morals of a person willing to do it. Also, take into account that people don't always view their character on-line as a extension of themselves, but of an alter ego they wish to manipulate, much the same way when certain people get behind the wheel of a car, they become maniacal drivers. I personally don't have any problem with PK'ers or PK'ing. I actually enjoy their addition to the game, however I feel certain skills should either not be able to work in PVP, or there should be a timer. Trigger hackers and hydra pkers are very unfair, but then again a 5-second timer, as has been suggested, won't stop a Town/World Portal trapper, now will it? When I pk'd my favorite tactic was to "help" people get from act 1 to 3, so they had my trust. Then I would send them a "trapped" town portal in Mephisto's lair, surrounded by the three Council Members, Mephisto, and plenty of whatever else was running around. Usually, people would die in less than one second unless they were using maphacks auto-leave ability when their hit point got too low. I loved Pk'ing and saw it more as a sport, like hunting geese, then a morally wrong thing to do. I would expound on myself, but atlas I have company.
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