[split] Stormrage Lurker Guild Discussion - Formerly known as Cat Beta

[--Pete]

Hi,

First, thank you for a civil and rational reply. If we can keep it at this level, then perhaps all is good.

I think you're greatly overestimating any frictions currently present, at least inasmuch as they affect how any of us plays WoW.

All the more reason not to let passion turn this into a feud -- from either side.

And there are still a some of us that try strange things.

I'm sure there are. And I'm sincere in asking; as part of on line guild activities? Is there any organized craziness like, for instance, the Seven Samurai group in D2? If so, then my apologies. I can only base my observations on what I read here and what I see (and occasionally hear) while online.

I'll have to disagree with your statement that you can't see the difference in Lurkers. There is a degree of integrity and relaxed play in Lurkers that is sadly lacking in much of the WoW playerbase. Perhaps that's not the axis of change you were going for, but I must protest the generalization.

I'm sorry you took it that way, but in the context it was said, I'll still stand by it. When I've inspected players, I find that the Lurkers are by and large just like anybody else in terms of gear and build. From the events scheduled here on the fora, from the few reports on those events, and from the general discussions, I find that they are also just like everyone else in their goals and desires. I fully agree that the Lurkers I've interacted with are good people. That has not changed. But I think my context made it clear that I did not mean that.

I think it was clear fairly early on that the guilds are not the site and the site is not the guilds. I'm still not convinced there's a problem here.

Yeah. That was the case with AoH, too. Indeed, since the powers that be in EQ wouldn't accept 'angels' or 'hell' in a guild game (I thought it was an MMO, but apparently it was Sunday school), even the names of the two were different. Advocates of Honor, IIRC.

I don't think there should be a problem here. But either there is one, or a lot of people have way too much time on their hands. Is a Lurker an active member of an in-game guild who never shows up in the fora (other than to sign up for raids) or is it an active poster on the fora who doesn't even play the game or some hybrid of the two? Personally, I think that question is stupid, because Lurkers is big enough to be all of those. And 'no true Lurker' would dis another player for any legit playing style.

Thanks for taking the pledge.

--Pete