(05-05-2010, 07:51 PM)Jester Wrote:Quote:That depends on the ratio of producers to moochers, and how much the State offers in social welfare to all comers. Remove the socialistic benefits, and this scheme might work.If you're really concerned by this (I wouldn't be), just set up a block of a few years on new migrants receiving benefits. Lots of countries do this. That will stop anyone who simply cannot work from coming and receiving benefits. But, overwhelmingly, migrants come to work. Work makes production, production creates taxes, taxes fund programs. They are an enormous net benefit to the social welfare system, not a cost.
It has been tried before! It will not work. See Prop 187. The outcry from illegals and their lobbyists is too great it would seem.
(05-05-2010, 11:39 PM)--Pete Wrote: Hi,
(05-05-2010, 11:16 PM)kandrathe Wrote: They don't (can't) just throw them into an English speaking classroom, and expect them to keep up.You're right, they can't. Oh, wait a minute, they did -- with me and with a whole bunch of immigrants who came before me (and for a long time after me). I went to high school with a number of Cubans who spoke no English. And it worked a whole lot better than what they are doing now. If you want a polyglot nation and the divisions, mistrust, and hatred that engenders, then the present practice is the way to go.
I agree with you about the time you attended school, however you failed to mention that schools now have a mandate to teach much more curriculum in a much shorter time. My kids started learning subjects in school, such as fractions and basic algebra such as variables, at least 1-2 years before I did in school. With this No-Child-Left-Behind act, schools are under a lot more pressure to teach twice the amount of information I learned in school - my kids only get off 2 months for Summer whereas I got off 3.5 months! Try combining this with a classroom full of people who don't speak English as their native language and your run the course for disaster in the making. Truly, the current system is broken.
Quote:By Federal law, we are required to accommodate children with special educational needs, of which, one of them is ESL. And... to make it worse, this is an unfunded federal mandate.
Quote:So? Doesn't make it right, just makes it another poorly thought out law.
EDIT: This forum just combined two of my posts and messed up the tags on them....
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