I'm speechless.

[Occhidiangela]

So basically, yes I would like to stand behind Epictitus (and for me, personally, I wholeheartedly do), but the people subjected to these camps, by their very nature, are ill-prepared to resist it.

Yes, that makes sense in many cases, I am sure, in that if the parents have by that point been unable to establish XXXX self worth, then the destructive behaviour being reacted to signals a deeper problem. The broken home theme once again screams at me as a root cause.

However, you will also find persons on the flip side: exceptionally strong personalities who go from testing the limits to crossing the line of illegality. Those nuts are tough to crack by anyone. Those personalities, even if adolsecent, will be able to game even a concentration camp sorto of atmosphere and come out with minimal internal damage.