The other Awards Obama will will this year...
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Quote:Why do you think what is happening is reform? It is different, but probably not better. What makes you think that the government will do better at this than they do at any other thing they do?

You need good healthcare for everybody, and of course that is going to cost. The probelm here is not with the government, the problem is with the mentality of the people. People need to understand that a more social healthcare system, will benefit the entire country, and is not a slippery slope into communism. (I know the propaganda they feed you)

Quote:Are you speaking for yourself? My family has been uninsured for over a year. I think I know and live the issues.
And you were happy with that?


Quote:Yes, you are very compassionate. Would you mind paying for my families health care eppie? It must give you a nice warm feeling knowing you are forcing someone else pay for the amenities of all. There is no need to actually be charitable anymore with people such as yourselves ensuring that every person is forced to fork out their hard earned sweat and future economic security.

I pay for other people's health care. Me and my wife both have a nice income and are hardly ever ill. Likely during our life we will contribute more than 3 times the money that we will 'get back' by using health care. And I seriously couldnot give a ***. It also doesn't give me a warm or righteous feeling, and probably when these contributions were not obligatory I wouldn't pay so much.......and that is exactly the reason why I am in favour of social health care system (I mean social, not socialist). You and me, are already lucky we were born in a rich country.....we can live a good life solely because we were born where we were born. On a smaller scale I think it is a good thing that parents who get a handicapped child don't have to slip in to pverty but are supported through common money. Again, it doesn't give me a warm feeling, it is just what a developed country should do.


Quote: Well, yes, I guess you can call it an economy. Much as the Soviets used to have, but it's hardly a free market.

I believe all pharma companies work in a free market. If also medical personell salaries were market conform they would probably be lower. Anyway that is not the point. The point is making sure everybody can get the treatment he needs.


Quote:Another idiotic knee jerk liberal platitude. Who do you think pays taxes? Rich people? Bahahahaha. No, they rig the reins of power such that they never have to pay taxes. The bulk of taxes are paid by the middle class, and always will be. You are taking from the middle to give the the lower middle and lower classes. The rich are out of your grasp unless you propose to tax actual wealth.


That is a problem of how you wish to receive tax money. This has nothing to do with how you spend tax-money. On president uses the money to go to war (although he actually just uses it to pay, via a different route, his oil and wepons selling friends) and another president uses it for health care. But both are cases of spending. You are talking about your problems with receiving taxes......your point is the less taxes teh happier I am, and that is your right, I just think that the US if they wanted could invent a working system for health care. If they choose to do so is up to the voters.

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The other Awards Obama will will this year... - by eppie - 10-16-2009, 09:09 AM

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