Should civilized nations use "Enhanced Interrogation" techni

[--Pete]

Hi,

. . . but it was an attack on one of your views (at least as I understood it), namely that critics of the Bush interrogation program were mistaking the the lack of jam at breakfast for torture.

Not one of my views, never was. I agree that torture was used by the Bush administration. I agree that that was wrong, for many reasons, both moral and practical. But the thread is not only about those topics. The thread is about torture in general. Specifically, Should civilized nations use "Enhanced Interrogation" techniques. And it is that point which I was discussing. Can that question be answered, indeed does that question even have meaning, until we define what torture is?

You can if you want, but, like pornography, I know torture when I see it.

The problem with that is that it is too subjective. The 'normal' conditions in a Turkish prison might just qualify as torture in a jail in San Fransisco, CA.

--Pete