Well, it frakkin ended.

[Hammerskjold]

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...my response should not be assumed to be directed at Hammer.

Too late, I gotta reply when you put up a bunch of good points.:)

Though re-reading one of my sentence, I might have been a bit unclear and confusing. I can't get no relief until I correct it. (wakka wakka nyuk nyuk nyuk)

Instead of this, 'The 150,000 year jump hangs on the whole 'let's not build cities right away' bit.'

I probably should've wrote it as, 'the -success\story impact- of the 150,000 year jump relies on the let's not build cities bit...etc'. And so far, IMO I still think the coda\ jump scene was a successful story move.

K, let's get to the meatier bits and less on my grammar mistakes.

New Caprica also was a suck hole and they mentioned several times that people still didn't go back to the ships that much, even Tigh stayed on the craphole planet because it was better than the ships.

Yep. In the New Caprica episodes, Adama probably saw the writing on the wall. More and more people want to go down to the planet, Galactica and Pegasus has an increasingly hard time retaining a ship crew. It's enough to make Lee all fat and soft, and Adama grow a pornstache.

They were already starting to forget about the ships and abandon some of the tech on New Caprica. Don't forget that all the survivors had already had a lesson in starting over on a planet.

Good point, though iirc they may have some light machinery on the landed ships I think. But the general suckiness of New Caprica's habitability, would probably necessitate more technology to eke out even basic existence. On Earth2 they did seem to have at least tents\tent style dwellings at first, but they probably could make do with less tech compared to New Caprica.

Now they would have had a broken Battlestar and if they wanted to keep the base ship a bunch of Centurions they really weren't sure about, hanging around as well.

Yeah. Giving the Red Stripes the Base Ship along with their freedom was IMO, more than just the right thing to do. It was probably also the safe thing to do. I think the Red Stripes would've been pissed off severely if after what they went through, to be enslaved yet again by the organics, colonials and skinjobs.

Letting them go has risks, but not letting them go is probably an even bigger danger. A broken Galactica staffed by just the people who survived the final mission, probably isn't in any position to dictate terms to the Red Stripes anyway. Also, breaking that cycle bit.

but even if they didn't give up the guns, how long would they really be an advantage? The marines could have force relocated them too go where they wanted them to go.

True, forgot about that possibility.

The old tech was going to run out of fuel or need conversion anyway. Did they even know about coal

OMGOMGOMGOMG! Are you thinking what I'm thinking?

BATTLE STEAM:GALACTICA!

Again, you take 25K random people from Earth, and drop them somewhere in North America, 150,000 years ago with say a battleship, an aircraft carrier, a few jet planes, a couple of cargo ships, some cars and trucks and helicopters and come back in 10 years and see if any of that stuff is running.

Sir, I only have one thing to say about this and one thing only. Why am I just reading this on a forum, instead of watching it on my TV screen as the most kick ass reality show, ever. They probably can't do the backwards time travel, but we'll find a sparsely populated area to fill in. Hell, with today's real estate prices, there's probably deals to be had in N. America.

I'm sure that happened anyway. But there wasn't any ice cream as it was. Again don't forget New Caprica.

Well, the one ship I can think of that might have the ability to produce ice cream, was the Cloud-9. And that went kablouie iirc at the time of the presidential vote aka \stay or pass on New Caprica. Frankly, I still blame Baltar for that one.

But again the desire for an actual home and a chance to get away from the Cylons, could have also been used to railroad the agenda through. You don't give the people time to organize and you just do it and you could get a lot more to agree to it and when it's done you can't go back.

Good observation. If it can work in our world, it's probably not a big barrier in theirs.