03-24-2009, 06:03 AM
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This might be the source of this era's big nerd war, reminiscent of Kirk vs Picard. ;P
I haven't quite made up my mind on it yet, though I think the creators left themselves some wiggle room when Lampkin was talking to Adama sr. IIRC, Lampkin was surprised how amenable everyone is to the idea, and Adama replied don't underestimate the desire for a clean slate. And Adama did say something like '...with some small provisions.'
If anything would sway me more to the 'yeah, I think most of them would go for the re-settlement without high tech options' side, is that many of them might be sick and tired of living in ships. Even if that ship is not as stressed out as Galactica. (Preceeding your good observation here.)
That's a good observation. Without knowing too much of their tech, I'm going to make a wild stab at it anyway. Regular analog books will probably be more prized than a PDA book or video game. Although we saw reporters using cameras and recorders, radios etc. They will probably have a hard time with charging\recharging\powering these kinds of gadgets on Earth2. It will probably be cave painting and parchment for awhile, and not digicams and mics.
They probably brought whatever med archives they could (in the form of Doc Cottle and co.), but they're probably just as concerned in finding out if there are new diseases or medical compounds unique to Earth2. The Colonials seems advanced in some areas, but medically they seem to be only marginally more advanced than we are. Eg: They don't have a cancer cure either. The cylon blood transfusion was only a temporary fix to Roslin's condition.
There are probably still other Cylon base ships out there, but they've probably got other problems in the immediate future. Their colony is destroyed, Cavil is dead, no resurrection. They could try to locate Earth2, but space can be a big and hostile place, and do they really want to take a chance with no res scroll left.
Galactica is out of commission, and the rebel Base Star is the only ship left that can take over that duty. But that's out of the question, since it was given to The Red Stripes Centurions who said bye. The usual drill seems to be if a hostile shows up, everyone else starts jump procedure. While Galactica defends until everyone has jumped. Even if some of the armaments were transfered to other ships, it's probably doubtful they could do any serious defending.
So it could be argued both forces after the assault\rescue mission, are at least in pro-longed stalemate.
Good points, the short answer is they probably have a limited time and budget to wrap up the series.;)
Another shorter answer is storywise, if a group decided to keep some colonial high tech and ships in orbits, the final 5 minutes would not have had the same impact.
The hoarding aspect is an interesting point, and it could be a whole other angle to explore, but again they only have 3 hours or so to wrap up. For the sake of devils advocacy here though, do they have much to hoard at this point? A lot has likely been used up after the first attack on the colonies, same thing after the New Caprica evac.
They probably brought some sort of weapons and weapon ideas, but ammo for guns might be in very low supply after the final assault-rescue mission. And without much ammo, not to mention repair parts and gunsmiths, the guns might as well be salvaged for the metal to make knives, spear, bows, etc.
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Quote:So my main gripe is with how the survivors all decided to give up their technology to live on Earth#2. I just don't buy that.
This might be the source of this era's big nerd war, reminiscent of Kirk vs Picard. ;P
I haven't quite made up my mind on it yet, though I think the creators left themselves some wiggle room when Lampkin was talking to Adama sr. IIRC, Lampkin was surprised how amenable everyone is to the idea, and Adama replied don't underestimate the desire for a clean slate. And Adama did say something like '...with some small provisions.'
If anything would sway me more to the 'yeah, I think most of them would go for the re-settlement without high tech options' side, is that many of them might be sick and tired of living in ships. Even if that ship is not as stressed out as Galactica. (Preceeding your good observation here.)
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Consider that amoungst the survivors, there are bound to be those who have lived abord ships other than Galactica and probably have not experienced the stress they have, teenagers who want to bring along their favorite PDA book or video game.
That's a good observation. Without knowing too much of their tech, I'm going to make a wild stab at it anyway. Regular analog books will probably be more prized than a PDA book or video game. Although we saw reporters using cameras and recorders, radios etc. They will probably have a hard time with charging\recharging\powering these kinds of gadgets on Earth2. It will probably be cave painting and parchment for awhile, and not digicams and mics.
Quote:Consider all the medical archives, information that is essential to survival all being left behind - illogical. Consider the hostilities of a new planet, and not having weapons to protect against unknown elements, such as wild animals just seems illogical.
They probably brought whatever med archives they could (in the form of Doc Cottle and co.), but they're probably just as concerned in finding out if there are new diseases or medical compounds unique to Earth2. The Colonials seems advanced in some areas, but medically they seem to be only marginally more advanced than we are. Eg: They don't have a cancer cure either. The cylon blood transfusion was only a temporary fix to Roslin's condition.
Quote:Consider they just landed on this planet and can never be certain that the Cylon#2's didn't survive that final attack (I'm sure there are other base-ships out there), thus they could eventually find them on Earth#2 and if they weren't prepared, they would be taken over since the Cavil made it perfectly clear the remaining Cylon#2's were looking for a new home themselves.
There are probably still other Cylon base ships out there, but they've probably got other problems in the immediate future. Their colony is destroyed, Cavil is dead, no resurrection. They could try to locate Earth2, but space can be a big and hostile place, and do they really want to take a chance with no res scroll left.
Galactica is out of commission, and the rebel Base Star is the only ship left that can take over that duty. But that's out of the question, since it was given to The Red Stripes Centurions who said bye. The usual drill seems to be if a hostile shows up, everyone else starts jump procedure. While Galactica defends until everyone has jumped. Even if some of the armaments were transfered to other ships, it's probably doubtful they could do any serious defending.
So it could be argued both forces after the assault\rescue mission, are at least in pro-longed stalemate.
Quote:Consider there's not enough study done to even know if that planet's sun wasn't going to go supernova like Kabol's did, or that some meteor might smash into the planet, it seems logical that for survival's sake, they might not consisder keeping ships in space. Consider that even if half the fleet agreed with Lee, the other half probably did not. It also crossed my mind how after being in a situation like what they experienced, quite a few of the survivors have Post Tramautica Stress Syndrome, however it seems to me someone who has lost everything would become a horder, keeping everything they can for fear they'll loose it; everything they own has sentimental value (my mom is a horder and grew up moving from place to place her whole childhood). Giving up all their technology seems completly illogical to me, and while some of the survivors might comply, I honestly don't see all of them complying which brings up the paradox, why haven't we found ancient guns or computer components in some cave somewhere?
Good points, the short answer is they probably have a limited time and budget to wrap up the series.;)
Another shorter answer is storywise, if a group decided to keep some colonial high tech and ships in orbits, the final 5 minutes would not have had the same impact.
The hoarding aspect is an interesting point, and it could be a whole other angle to explore, but again they only have 3 hours or so to wrap up. For the sake of devils advocacy here though, do they have much to hoard at this point? A lot has likely been used up after the first attack on the colonies, same thing after the New Caprica evac.
They probably brought some sort of weapons and weapon ideas, but ammo for guns might be in very low supply after the final assault-rescue mission. And without much ammo, not to mention repair parts and gunsmiths, the guns might as well be salvaged for the metal to make knives, spear, bows, etc.