06-24-2003, 02:22 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-24-2003, 02:27 PM by Occhidiangela.)
Occhi the Rogue's rating system: Three and a half Westmarch Bitters, out of a possible five.
Discussion:
SPOILERS!! BEWARE!!!
Overall, I sort of enjoyed it. Bruce Banner, played by Mr Bana, did a pretty nice job. He aced Toby McGuire of Spiderman by about an order of magnitude. Well done Mr Bana. Two Westmarch Bitter's For You, Ogden, ring them up!
1. I took my son, 11. Stupid idea. I feel like a complete idiot. Not suitable for him, too dark. He found Spiderman OK, this was just a bit much. The psychedelic stuff down inside the genes had my son freaking out. I thought it trite, and pointless. The split screen crap was just that, cutesy Ang Lee crap. No value added, and it even detracted from the presentation.
2. THX jackaknavery. The soundtrack/background sound, was too loud. Although the voices were the correct pitch, everything else was way over amped. It was was about 40% too damned loud, and I am sound tolerant. I have lost some hearing over the years, but even my numb ears thought it was too loud!
3. Miss Ross: decent acting, pretty lady, nice teeth. She uses a MAC. :D
4. Sam Elliot. Nick Nolte. Both were underused, but added much value. Their full value not totally evoked by Mr Lee. Remembering the comics, there was always some general in them chomping on a cigar and trying to take down the Hulk, or so my memory tells me. I liked the way they developed the mad scientist for Nolte // younger Nolte. But, locked away for 30 years, how did he learn to run a modern computer? BAH!!
5. The Hitler Youth Corporate Bad Guy. For Goodness' Sake, another paper doll bad guy!! New 'cliche bad guy,' anyone? However, given what I know about federal acquisition and the Defense Department contracting everything out, it is actually one of the most realistic parts of the plot, the most grounded in reality. Only the guy's personality is two dimensional, his role's motivation is not a bad reflection of reality to a certain extent.
6. Area 51, or Andromeda Strain? The desert lab. OK. :) But what was that green mushroom cloud in the girl's memory, and why was it a mushroom could? Radiation in medical instruments is hardly the same as a bomb. Or, maybe I missed it, did that secret base in the 50's have it's own nuclear reactor? In the desert? Where there is no water to cool it.
7. The CGI Hulk. Excellent. Nicely done. Loved the frog jumping tour of the desert. The leapingest Hulk of Yuma county, anyone?
8. Hulky Features? OK, back to the comic books, it is where the film crossed the line. Self healing, fine versus small arms, but against the Commanche 20MM chain gun, sorry, that was a bit much. Catching the Hellfire missile and tossing it back: Hulk Fu! David CaraGreen! :) Hellfire's blowing up rock formations? Not bloody likely, or at least, not without about four battalions of Apaches doing it. Should have been done by two squadrons of B-1's dropping bunker busters. Hey, the General had 'everything' available per the phone call, right?
Swinging an Abrams tank by the gun? Gun would bend / come out, turret would maybe come off, like the second one, and then there is a nice Hulk-sized badminton racket. :D Abrams rate of fire on the Main Gun, and siting, would have had Hulk hit by four or five main gun rounds per tank. Dead, shredded, or at least swiss cheesed Hulk, so of course the RoE must have been restrictive. ??? Shredding him like that would have been grosser than the dog fight, anyway.
9. Golden Gate Sequence. Jumping on the F-22. Cool, but ridiculous in the extreme due to MV^2. But what the hell. :D Comic book. With his weight, you get two broken tail fins and a crashed jet. However, they went with it, Center of gravity problems for the fighter over the bay, OK, and realism returned. Airplane has service ceiling, (Uh, Hulk held on how with the force of 600KTS of wind pushing against his non aerodynamic form? His hands did not burn from the heat on wing leading edge while airplane climbed???? Right, comic book.) He iced up (realistic), passed out, realistic, fell, reaches terminal velocity, realistic, and then hits the water -- and does not go splat like the exploding frog in the early part of the film. At those velocities, water = concrete due to incompressbility of a liquid, but hey, he's part frog, part jellyfish, part snake, he deals with it and heals real fast. Fair enough. Now, he turns into . . . a great big green mole? OK, it's a comic book, got it.
10. Cal Berkely. 'Nuff said.
11. Dog Fight. Gratuitous in the extreme, except I had to force my self to like it because, he Killed The Poodle! YEAH!!! The dogs were sort of like him, self-healing, and they too got large when mad, so it made sense that he had a hard time in that fight. I wonder if Miss Ross' comprehensive covered damage to her car from giant mutant dogs and big green dude on lizard steroids. :o
12. How it got started, was OK. Doc Bruce Banner, not David Banner. (The TV series was wrong.) The way they set up the Hulk inducing accident I liked, though his dad setting up a similar accident was done how? Most of that stuff was toast already. Fusing to Metal? Comic, right!!
13. Banner, the elder's, rant was semi-coherent if you figure he had considered eugenics in a Macro species sense. As a man obsessed with science, his rant actually made some sense, though it was of course a bit over the top. He's a MAD scientist, remember?
14. Assimilating the energy field . . . OK. It is a comic book. Great cosmic power, teeny tiny credibility. :lol:
15. Using nukes to take him out: nope, not gonna happen. Come up with a better idea, eh?
16. The last line: Great! I was waiting for that all movie long. :D
17. Lou Ferrigno, the cameo, was nice. :) (EDIT here, I spelled Lou's name incorrectly.)
I enjoyed it, but I wish I had not wasted my son's time. That movie needs a 15 year old or so to handle, IMO.
Discussion:
SPOILERS!! BEWARE!!!
Overall, I sort of enjoyed it. Bruce Banner, played by Mr Bana, did a pretty nice job. He aced Toby McGuire of Spiderman by about an order of magnitude. Well done Mr Bana. Two Westmarch Bitter's For You, Ogden, ring them up!
1. I took my son, 11. Stupid idea. I feel like a complete idiot. Not suitable for him, too dark. He found Spiderman OK, this was just a bit much. The psychedelic stuff down inside the genes had my son freaking out. I thought it trite, and pointless. The split screen crap was just that, cutesy Ang Lee crap. No value added, and it even detracted from the presentation.
2. THX jackaknavery. The soundtrack/background sound, was too loud. Although the voices were the correct pitch, everything else was way over amped. It was was about 40% too damned loud, and I am sound tolerant. I have lost some hearing over the years, but even my numb ears thought it was too loud!
3. Miss Ross: decent acting, pretty lady, nice teeth. She uses a MAC. :D
4. Sam Elliot. Nick Nolte. Both were underused, but added much value. Their full value not totally evoked by Mr Lee. Remembering the comics, there was always some general in them chomping on a cigar and trying to take down the Hulk, or so my memory tells me. I liked the way they developed the mad scientist for Nolte // younger Nolte. But, locked away for 30 years, how did he learn to run a modern computer? BAH!!
5. The Hitler Youth Corporate Bad Guy. For Goodness' Sake, another paper doll bad guy!! New 'cliche bad guy,' anyone? However, given what I know about federal acquisition and the Defense Department contracting everything out, it is actually one of the most realistic parts of the plot, the most grounded in reality. Only the guy's personality is two dimensional, his role's motivation is not a bad reflection of reality to a certain extent.
6. Area 51, or Andromeda Strain? The desert lab. OK. :) But what was that green mushroom cloud in the girl's memory, and why was it a mushroom could? Radiation in medical instruments is hardly the same as a bomb. Or, maybe I missed it, did that secret base in the 50's have it's own nuclear reactor? In the desert? Where there is no water to cool it.
7. The CGI Hulk. Excellent. Nicely done. Loved the frog jumping tour of the desert. The leapingest Hulk of Yuma county, anyone?
8. Hulky Features? OK, back to the comic books, it is where the film crossed the line. Self healing, fine versus small arms, but against the Commanche 20MM chain gun, sorry, that was a bit much. Catching the Hellfire missile and tossing it back: Hulk Fu! David CaraGreen! :) Hellfire's blowing up rock formations? Not bloody likely, or at least, not without about four battalions of Apaches doing it. Should have been done by two squadrons of B-1's dropping bunker busters. Hey, the General had 'everything' available per the phone call, right?
Swinging an Abrams tank by the gun? Gun would bend / come out, turret would maybe come off, like the second one, and then there is a nice Hulk-sized badminton racket. :D Abrams rate of fire on the Main Gun, and siting, would have had Hulk hit by four or five main gun rounds per tank. Dead, shredded, or at least swiss cheesed Hulk, so of course the RoE must have been restrictive. ??? Shredding him like that would have been grosser than the dog fight, anyway.
9. Golden Gate Sequence. Jumping on the F-22. Cool, but ridiculous in the extreme due to MV^2. But what the hell. :D Comic book. With his weight, you get two broken tail fins and a crashed jet. However, they went with it, Center of gravity problems for the fighter over the bay, OK, and realism returned. Airplane has service ceiling, (Uh, Hulk held on how with the force of 600KTS of wind pushing against his non aerodynamic form? His hands did not burn from the heat on wing leading edge while airplane climbed???? Right, comic book.) He iced up (realistic), passed out, realistic, fell, reaches terminal velocity, realistic, and then hits the water -- and does not go splat like the exploding frog in the early part of the film. At those velocities, water = concrete due to incompressbility of a liquid, but hey, he's part frog, part jellyfish, part snake, he deals with it and heals real fast. Fair enough. Now, he turns into . . . a great big green mole? OK, it's a comic book, got it.
10. Cal Berkely. 'Nuff said.
11. Dog Fight. Gratuitous in the extreme, except I had to force my self to like it because, he Killed The Poodle! YEAH!!! The dogs were sort of like him, self-healing, and they too got large when mad, so it made sense that he had a hard time in that fight. I wonder if Miss Ross' comprehensive covered damage to her car from giant mutant dogs and big green dude on lizard steroids. :o
12. How it got started, was OK. Doc Bruce Banner, not David Banner. (The TV series was wrong.) The way they set up the Hulk inducing accident I liked, though his dad setting up a similar accident was done how? Most of that stuff was toast already. Fusing to Metal? Comic, right!!
13. Banner, the elder's, rant was semi-coherent if you figure he had considered eugenics in a Macro species sense. As a man obsessed with science, his rant actually made some sense, though it was of course a bit over the top. He's a MAD scientist, remember?
14. Assimilating the energy field . . . OK. It is a comic book. Great cosmic power, teeny tiny credibility. :lol:
15. Using nukes to take him out: nope, not gonna happen. Come up with a better idea, eh?
16. The last line: Great! I was waiting for that all movie long. :D
17. Lou Ferrigno, the cameo, was nice. :) (EDIT here, I spelled Lou's name incorrectly.)
I enjoyed it, but I wish I had not wasted my son's time. That movie needs a 15 year old or so to handle, IMO.
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In Memory of Pete
In War, the outcome is never final. --Carl von Clausewitz--
Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum
John 11:35 - consider why.
In Memory of Pete