What is Communitarianism?
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Quote:So, Meat, maybe "socialism" is the wrong word for a modern world.

Communitarianism, being an "ism," better defines most cultures out there, however I feel my understanding of socialism still stands, broad as it may be. Here is a snippet of Socialism from Wiki:

Quote:Socialism refers to a broad set of economic theories of social organization advocating public or state ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods, and a society characterized by equal opportunities for all individuals, with a fair or egalitarian method of compensation. Modern socialism originated in the late 19th-century working class political movement, and in an intellectual movement that criticized the effects of industrialization and private ownership on society. Karl Marx posited that socialism would be achieved via class struggle and a proletarian revolution, and would represent a transitional stage between capitalism and communism.

Socialists mainly share the belief that capitalism unfairly concentrates power and wealth among a small segment of society that controls capital, creates an unequal society, and does not provide equal opportunities for everyone in society. Therefore socialists advocate the creation of a society in which wealth and power are distributed more evenly based on the amount of work expended, although there is considerable disagreement among socialists over how, and to what extent this could be achieved.

Socialism is not a concrete philosophy of fixed doctrine and program; its branches advocate a degree of social interventionism and economic rationalization, sometimes opposing each other. Another dividing feature of the socialist movement is the split between reformists and the revolutionaries on how a socialist economy should be established. Some socialists advocate complete nationalization of the means of production, distribution, and exchange; others advocate state control of capital within the framework of a market economy. Socialists inspired by the Soviet model of economic development have advocated the creation of centrally planned economies directed by a state that owns all the means of production. Others, including Yugoslavian, Hungarian, Polish and Chinese Communists in the 1970s and 1980s, instituted various forms of market socialism, combining co-operative and state ownership models with the free market exchange and free price system (but not prices for the means of production). Social democrats propose selective nationalization of key national industries in mixed economies and tax-funded welfare programs and the regulation of markets. Libertarian socialism (including social anarchism and libertarian Marxism) rejects state control and ownership of the economy altogether and advocates direct collective ownership of the means of production via co-operative workers' councils and workplace democracy.

Truth is, there is not a single culture that does not have socialistic elements within its economic policy. Those on these boards who said Democracy and Socialism can go hand-in-hand are correct, and if you look at all the examples in America alone of socialistic tendencies in the other thread, it's obviously true. So, Socialism is much too broad of a term to define what I was attempting to point the finger at in my original thread. In retrospect, would I define what I was trying to say as Nationalism, Communism, Communitarianism, or just plain old fashioned paranoia? I can't really say. The conjecture has been fun, however I said my peace about the subject in my first two posts of the other thread. I don't hold any conspiracy theory thoughts, nor horde complex paranoia's for weeks on end - this subject has run its course for me unless something new comes up relating to the issues I see, or an issue I mentioned becomes a "problem." Until then, my mind is at ease.

I do find these offshoot topics to be very intriguing though, especially how religion fits into the scheme.
"The true value of a human being is determined primarily by the measure and the sense in which he has attained liberation from the self." -Albert Einsetin
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What is Communitarianism? - by kandrathe - 02-21-2009, 05:01 PM
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What is Communitarianism? - by kandrathe - 02-21-2009, 08:04 PM
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What is Communitarianism? - by kandrathe - 02-21-2009, 11:41 PM
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What is Communitarianism? - by librarian - 02-22-2009, 10:49 AM
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