06-21-2003, 06:37 PM
--- There is a line between a B quality post, and incoherant jibber jabber - just like there is a line between expressing a disliking of a subject and flaming. People don't need to stop trying to chase of the incoherant jibber jabber and the flaming, but it is a bad idea to chase off the B qualities and the people who calmly express a dislike.
--- I never once claimed friends, sometimes the best ideas come from people you hate (anyone ever fly in a jet? speaking of nazi's).
--- While communications is key to a forum, as any quality forum can attest to. It is also key to have a varied assortment of cultures to stew discussion, we are linked by playing d2, that is what Lurker Lounge is about - d2. We are not linked by perfect punctuation and spelling....personally I'd rather see "xfer" than "teransafer" (which yes, I have unfortunately seen).
--- Lowest Common denominator vs. zero tolerance. There is a happy medium, just some people can't see it because they haven't advanced beyond the young mentality of black and white. You can see oranges, purples, and greens of all shades and tints...would you prefer just blue, red, and yellow with none of these secondary and tertiary colors? same mentality of not seeing the grey with black and white. - it's usually better serve to real people, not some hyped up APA hugging nitpickers or the inept "ub3r l33ts".
- Draw a line, but don't put it on the other side of a barbed wire fence or you won't get many visitors.
--- Enforcement of rules is not a deterrant to growth in a community, it is an encouragement to growth.
True and False. True, enforcement of rules can show that you stand behind your word, and thus attract people for the reason of having a reasonably safe and secure area. False, enforcement can be taken too far, would you rather that police officer give you a $109 ticket for going 5 mph over the speed limit? or would you prefer them stopping the guy in the firebird going 45 mph over the speed limit? People try and avoid speed traps for a reason, so be careful how far you take "enforcement" or you'll become one of these small towns with a population smaller than their lowest speed.
--- Stagnation does not occur from community interest, or lack there of. Stagnation occurs when a group grows to isolate itself from any outside influences, thus forcing itself into a paranoid isolation. Through this isolation the group will begin to evaporate down to a very select group now lacking in a large portion of what they had before. Inside this small group even the slightest breeze(conflict) will cause it to crumble like a house of cards. Stagnation is very dangerous in any group activity, as this isolation (caused by fear of unknown, or xenophobia "Fear of outsiders") comes without warning and can occur in any group - even fanatical groups (what? he's less fanatical than us, we shouldn't let him in, he may distract us from our cause).
---Additional Comments---
"Seek you to be associated with these?"
No, nor do I seek to be associated with you in perticular - you my friend seem to be quite an "arse" from my encounters with you, but that is just my perspective. There are good people here, and they are the people I tend to try to associate myself with. (If you're gonna attack someone's post, imo you should have a moderator's tag to back it up or else you're just passing wind in an empty room)
"I'll take quality over quantity in my friends. I'll also extend that opinion to my ideas."
Quality over quantity is a good thing - I prefer to have both though.
As for extending that opinion to ideas, this is flawed logic. You need a quantity of ideas, for good ones to emerge. What are you expecting, one day a person to wake up with the cure for cancer? It won't happen, people have to come up with all the bad ideas, and then tie all the results back together for a good idea - You don't just wake up saying to yourself "guess I'll cure cancer today"
Nicodemus Phaulkon - you seem to be one of the few people with a problem with me, tell me the who, what, and why - or back off. I am accepted by the general populus of this forum, at least I am from the replies I have gotten. If you want me gone, say so, doesn't mean I'll leave, but at least then I'll know for sure where you're coming from.
I'd rather take a million knives in the face, than one in the back.
--- I never once claimed friends, sometimes the best ideas come from people you hate (anyone ever fly in a jet? speaking of nazi's).
--- While communications is key to a forum, as any quality forum can attest to. It is also key to have a varied assortment of cultures to stew discussion, we are linked by playing d2, that is what Lurker Lounge is about - d2. We are not linked by perfect punctuation and spelling....personally I'd rather see "xfer" than "teransafer" (which yes, I have unfortunately seen).
--- Lowest Common denominator vs. zero tolerance. There is a happy medium, just some people can't see it because they haven't advanced beyond the young mentality of black and white. You can see oranges, purples, and greens of all shades and tints...would you prefer just blue, red, and yellow with none of these secondary and tertiary colors? same mentality of not seeing the grey with black and white. - it's usually better serve to real people, not some hyped up APA hugging nitpickers or the inept "ub3r l33ts".
- Draw a line, but don't put it on the other side of a barbed wire fence or you won't get many visitors.
--- Enforcement of rules is not a deterrant to growth in a community, it is an encouragement to growth.
True and False. True, enforcement of rules can show that you stand behind your word, and thus attract people for the reason of having a reasonably safe and secure area. False, enforcement can be taken too far, would you rather that police officer give you a $109 ticket for going 5 mph over the speed limit? or would you prefer them stopping the guy in the firebird going 45 mph over the speed limit? People try and avoid speed traps for a reason, so be careful how far you take "enforcement" or you'll become one of these small towns with a population smaller than their lowest speed.
--- Stagnation does not occur from community interest, or lack there of. Stagnation occurs when a group grows to isolate itself from any outside influences, thus forcing itself into a paranoid isolation. Through this isolation the group will begin to evaporate down to a very select group now lacking in a large portion of what they had before. Inside this small group even the slightest breeze(conflict) will cause it to crumble like a house of cards. Stagnation is very dangerous in any group activity, as this isolation (caused by fear of unknown, or xenophobia "Fear of outsiders") comes without warning and can occur in any group - even fanatical groups (what? he's less fanatical than us, we shouldn't let him in, he may distract us from our cause).
---Additional Comments---
"Seek you to be associated with these?"
No, nor do I seek to be associated with you in perticular - you my friend seem to be quite an "arse" from my encounters with you, but that is just my perspective. There are good people here, and they are the people I tend to try to associate myself with. (If you're gonna attack someone's post, imo you should have a moderator's tag to back it up or else you're just passing wind in an empty room)
"I'll take quality over quantity in my friends. I'll also extend that opinion to my ideas."
Quality over quantity is a good thing - I prefer to have both though.
As for extending that opinion to ideas, this is flawed logic. You need a quantity of ideas, for good ones to emerge. What are you expecting, one day a person to wake up with the cure for cancer? It won't happen, people have to come up with all the bad ideas, and then tie all the results back together for a good idea - You don't just wake up saying to yourself "guess I'll cure cancer today"
Nicodemus Phaulkon - you seem to be one of the few people with a problem with me, tell me the who, what, and why - or back off. I am accepted by the general populus of this forum, at least I am from the replies I have gotten. If you want me gone, say so, doesn't mean I'll leave, but at least then I'll know for sure where you're coming from.
I'd rather take a million knives in the face, than one in the back.
Chaos < Logic > Order
One who knows the enemy and knows himself will not be in danger in a hundred battles.
One who does not know the enemy but knows himself will sometimes win, sometimes lose.
One who does not know the enemy and does not know himself will be in danger in every battle.
- Sun Tzu "The Art of War"
One who knows the enemy and knows himself will not be in danger in a hundred battles.
One who does not know the enemy but knows himself will sometimes win, sometimes lose.
One who does not know the enemy and does not know himself will be in danger in every battle.
- Sun Tzu "The Art of War"