Trying to find a new home. Frag said I might be able to find one

[Kevin]

I am presently in the same boat that shoju was in and looking for a decent server to transfer onto. I previously spent a decent amount of time playing on stormrage in the lurker guild there but when RL friends started playing again i re-rolled back to Bronzebeard. Now with the expansion coming up our small group is looking to abandon the pitiful state of play on our present server.

What RTM said in his post.

Though I do want to point out that the server is a mountain time server and much of the scheduling is based on that. Our 25 man raids start at 8 server which is 10 eastern.

The focus in WotLK will be on 10 mans though and we do have enough east coasters and central time zone folks that it's possible that there will be regularly scheduled 10 mans at earlier time. We do "guild pick-up" runs of Kara and ZA that start at 6 and 6:30 server at times already (which again would be 8 - 8:30 eastern).

Another note on the "10 man focus". It's not that we won't do 25 man raids if we have the people and make it work, but we have a lot of trouble filling the 25 man rosters right now and we don't ever plan on actively recruiting again. We like to raid and progress but we aren't a raiding guild. We have been trying to do 25 man raids 2 nights a week with each raid session only being 3 - 4 hours. So yeah, 6-8 hours a week of raiding. I realize some guilds do nearly that much in one day/night. We've cleared SSC, 3/4 TK, 4/5 MH, 2/9 BT right now. So we do make progress, but lack of time slows us down, that was the biggest hurdle for Vashj honestly was just getting enough practice time. I think it was 50-60 real pulls before the, but some nights we only got 3 pulls in because while you don't have to kill Hydross, we liked to get her and Lurker down and some nights we would start with only 15 or so raiders and be slowed, our rosters change a fair bit too. Real raid guilds would likely get those 50-60 pulls in 2 - 5 raids, so just one week. For us 50-60 pulls was like a month especially since some of the scheduled nights real life would cause too many people to not be able to make it and the 25 mans don't go. I don't think we got a 25 man off the ground this week. Things came up.

But it's been tough to keep the sign-ups and as mentioned we just don't want to recruit to do it. We still get new people in the guild and we welcome them, but we are picky and slow about it. :) Actually right now the officers are working on a post to sticky that explains how we do guild invites now. Essentially it boils down to people that like the culture of these forums since the guild was born from the forums not the other way around like many guilds. :)

10 mans will just be easier to make sure we can run them all the time and we may do 2x10 mans in a raid lock instead of a 1x 25 man. Or if we always have 30 people signing up we'll do 25 mans and still might do 1 or 2 locks of the 10 mans, who knows.

But I think we've had some people join lately that assume we are more like a typical raiding guild. We aren't we probably raid about half as much as the crew on Stormrage did. We've got too many players that can only put in a 3-5 hour time chunk 1 night a week. :)


Edit: A clearer way to clarify the WotLK raiding is we are going to do what works better for folks schedules. If 25 mans work better for 90%+ of the guild and the other 10% that wants to see content is fine with it being in a 10 man, we'll do 25 mans with 10 mans for those who can't make the 25 mans. Though since 25 mans take more commitment if 100% of the people can make scheduled 10 mans but only 50% of the people can make scheduled 25 mans and we only have 40 people than 25 mans likely won't happen at all since there will only be 20 people for them. 10 mans seem to be the easier way to go and I like the idea that we very well could support locks that start at 4-6 server (6-8 eastern) and support locks that start at 8-9 server (10-11 Eastern) and get more people in more content, even if it isn't the big content.

It's also possible we might work a deal with Keepers so that the our folks who want to see 25 man stuff can do it with them and we only ever worry about 10 man. I don't think that will be found out till WotLK is live though and we'll have time as people are leveling to 80 anyway.