06-05-2008, 07:18 PM
Quote:And, I'm not going to be able to convince you unless we catch Wright with his hand in the cookie jar.
If you wanted to call him a theif, I'd ask what he stole. If you wanted to call him a murderer, I'd ask who he killed. You want to call him an anti-semite. I'm asking you to prove that he is one, not that it would be plausible.
Quote:You claim to be a skeptic. But that only seems to extend to those things you already do not believe. When it comes to what you believe you are skeptical of anything to the contrary. There is direct evidence and there is circumstantial evidence. You don't seem to find that later valid.
If you go into court with only circumstantial evidence, you usually lose. It's weak, it tends to be open to interpretation, and it runs afoul of "innocent until proven guilty." It's not that it means nothing, but without any direct evidence, it's not worth a lot.
Quote:So take the circumstantial evidence of Rezko. Involved in fund raising for Obama and involved with known middle eastern anti-Semites (if not extremists) and other convicted criminals. Who is also tied in with the as Wright, Ali Abunimah, Obama, Aiham Alsammarae and other such Chicago organizations. Ali Abunimah is one of the founders of Electonic Intifada, another anti-Israeli propaganda site and the anti-Semitic ISM Arab group Al Awda, the Palestine Right of Return Coalition.
Aiham Alsammarae is now an American citizen living in Chicago and a former Iraqi cabinet minister of Electicity who was convicted in Iraq of stealing about $650 million dollars.
I thought Six Degrees of Separation was a game you played with Kevin Bacon, not an argument. Rezko is involved in fundraising for all sorts of people, he is a die-hard political junkie and influence peddler. He is connected to almost everyone, so of course if you start playing "he's with X, who's with Y, who's with Z", you end up at all sorts of crazy places. Maybe someone should ask Oliver Stone if he wants the movie rights.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rezko#Ties_wi...ther_polticians
Quote:It's not a conviction, it's just another case of circumstance. But these circumstances all point a certain direction. These individuals are linked and it makes you wonder. Are we seeing the tip of the iceberg here?
Yes. There seems to be an awful lot of circumstance, a lot of "what if", a lot of "read between the lines", and not a whole lot of substance. This is a serious accusation, and you have yet to muster the weight of evidence to prove it.
Maybe your suspicions are correct. Maybe there is a great frozen continent of anti-semitism under all this. Or maybe people are trolling over Obama's connections in agonizing detail to derail his political chances, hoping that people will "read between the lines" long enough to cost him the election, and then let the subject rot in oblivion once its political function has been served.
-Jester