Religious Resignation
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Quote:Okay. So it is what I said, then. You don't like Liberation Theology, and therefore you feel free to declare him and his heretics and apostates.

Needless to say, I don't think they acknowledge your authority to excommunicate them, Pope Kandrathe. They think they're right about god, you think you're right about god, and unless the skies open up or you fight to the death, I don't see how you're going to settle that.
Let's see, Heresy = "an opinion, doctrine, or practice contrary to the truth or to generally accepted beliefs or standards". Who is the standard bearer for Christianity? UCC? No. TUC? No. Most of standard orthodoxy has condemned Liberation Theology as heresy and apostasy. I agree with them. Don't like my answer, then ask the Pope. Don't like the Catholic view, then ask the Baptists, Evangelicals or any non-political church.
Quote:Louis Farrakhan is a complicated character, and while I think he's a nasty anti-semite, this is not the side of him that the black religious community regularly sees. They see the anti-poverty work and the anti-drug work, the social activism and the million man march. I don't think he deserves a lifetime achievement award, I think he should probably go crawl into a hole somewhere and never come out. But I think Trinity had many reasons other than congratulating his jew-hating to give him one.
Ok, so if Hillary and Pat Robertson(trying to think of the White congruent to Farrakhan) were good friends and worked on many projects together, and Hillary gave Pat a life time achievement award you'd give her a pass?
Quote:As per printing the open letter from Ali Bagdadhi, they printed an open letter addressed to a super-prominent member of their congregation. This is not an endorsement of its contents.
What? If its crap you flush it, not post it on the bulletin board. I'm sorry, but re-publishing it is endorsing it.
Quote:If these were just a couple examples from a career like, say, David Duke's? Fine, anti-semite. But the usually overzealous ADL cleared him, and I haven't seen anything that isn't one of the two above things, neither of which is very direct.
Like Obama himself, Wright has perfected the art of being the semi non-confrontational radical black man. The ADL is not the perfect litmus test on all racism. You can make allusions without ever saying the thing you want to say. That is why I referenced his sermon when he talked about Romans being Italian, Europeans, being white, and being rich. He characterized in that sermon that rich, white people are the Romans, and then described how Hillary fits the mold. His allusion is that rich white Americans are the Romans and implementors of oppression, and poor, struggling people of color are the chosen people of God. He then goes on the say he has learned to love his enemies, love them to death. This is his Black Liberation theology in full expression. Maybe you cannot read between the lines, but maybe I am more familiar with the allusions made in sermons than you, so I do read between the lines and I don't like the implications.

In a recent CSPAN NPC lecture Wright was asked about his position on Israel, and while he said he believed Israel/Israeli's have a right to exist, he also said "Have you read the Link? Do you read the Link, Americans for Middle Eastern Understanding, where Palestinians and Israelis need to sit down and talk to each other and work out a solution where their children can grow in a world together, and not be talking about killing each other, that that is not God's will?" Here is the link to AMEU's website and I'll let you be the judge on where they stand on Israel's right to exist. AMEU was founded and is funded by the Saudi's and Saudi Aramco and is a site devoted to anti-Israeli propaganda. Now, being against Israel is not in and of itself antisemitic, but added to his other associations and rhetoric it makes me suspicious. He has been careful to walk a delicate line and keep his rhetoric below the ADL radar. But, a wink and nod he's more akin to Ali Bagdadhi, the Nation of Islam, and his former Islamic affiliations. What do you think? Is it possible he might be antisemitic?
Quote:Afterthought: That's quite the hatchet job of an article you have there.
Well, it's Obama's own words from his book. When you contrast words with actions you reveal the politician.
”There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Hamlet (1.5.167-8), Hamlet to Horatio.

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Religious Resignation - by Occhidiangela - 06-02-2008, 04:24 PM
Religious Resignation - by vor_lord - 06-02-2008, 05:25 PM
Religious Resignation - by Occhidiangela - 06-02-2008, 05:27 PM
Religious Resignation - by kandrathe - 06-02-2008, 05:55 PM
Religious Resignation - by eppie - 06-02-2008, 06:34 PM
Religious Resignation - by Occhidiangela - 06-02-2008, 07:07 PM
Religious Resignation - by Kevin - 06-02-2008, 08:05 PM
Religious Resignation - by Occhidiangela - 06-02-2008, 08:38 PM
Religious Resignation - by Tris - 06-02-2008, 09:28 PM
Religious Resignation - by Occhidiangela - 06-02-2008, 09:34 PM
Religious Resignation - by eppie - 06-02-2008, 09:41 PM
Religious Resignation - by Kevin - 06-02-2008, 09:42 PM
Religious Resignation - by Occhidiangela - 06-02-2008, 09:57 PM
Religious Resignation - by --Pete - 06-02-2008, 11:49 PM
Religious Resignation - by kandrathe - 06-03-2008, 12:20 AM
Religious Resignation - by Occhidiangela - 06-03-2008, 01:25 AM
Religious Resignation - by Occhidiangela - 06-03-2008, 01:33 AM
Religious Resignation - by Jester - 06-03-2008, 02:36 AM
Religious Resignation - by --Pete - 06-03-2008, 03:00 AM
Religious Resignation - by Jester - 06-03-2008, 03:14 AM
Religious Resignation - by --Pete - 06-03-2008, 03:30 AM
Religious Resignation - by Jim - 06-03-2008, 05:24 AM
Religious Resignation - by eppie - 06-03-2008, 07:25 AM
Religious Resignation - by Occhidiangela - 06-03-2008, 12:26 PM
Religious Resignation - by kandrathe - 06-03-2008, 12:27 PM
Religious Resignation - by Occhidiangela - 06-03-2008, 12:41 PM
Religious Resignation - by Occhidiangela - 06-03-2008, 12:49 PM
Religious Resignation - by Occhidiangela - 06-03-2008, 01:15 PM
Religious Resignation - by kandrathe - 06-03-2008, 06:09 PM
Religious Resignation - by Jester - 06-03-2008, 07:00 PM
Religious Resignation - by kandrathe - 06-03-2008, 07:20 PM
Religious Resignation - by eppie - 06-03-2008, 07:50 PM
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Religious Resignation - by kandrathe - 06-03-2008, 08:11 PM
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Religious Resignation - by kandrathe - 06-03-2008, 08:39 PM
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Religious Resignation - by Occhidiangela - 06-04-2008, 02:52 AM
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Religious Resignation - by kandrathe - 06-04-2008, 05:03 PM
Religious Resignation - by Jester - 06-04-2008, 05:44 PM
Religious Resignation - by Occhidiangela - 06-04-2008, 06:26 PM
Religious Resignation - by Jester - 06-04-2008, 06:27 PM
Religious Resignation - by kandrathe - 06-04-2008, 07:10 PM
Religious Resignation - by eppie - 06-04-2008, 07:52 PM
Religious Resignation - by Jester - 06-04-2008, 07:53 PM
Religious Resignation - by Occhidiangela - 06-04-2008, 08:36 PM
Religious Resignation - by Occhidiangela - 06-04-2008, 08:37 PM
Religious Resignation - by Thenryb - 06-04-2008, 08:58 PM
Religious Resignation - by eppie - 06-04-2008, 09:10 PM
Religious Resignation - by Jester - 06-04-2008, 09:15 PM
Religious Resignation - by Hammerskjold - 06-04-2008, 10:14 PM
Religious Resignation - by Occhidiangela - 06-05-2008, 01:20 AM
Religious Resignation - by Occhidiangela - 06-05-2008, 01:24 AM
Religious Resignation - by Jester - 06-05-2008, 01:32 AM
Religious Resignation - by Chesspiece_face - 06-05-2008, 01:49 AM
Religious Resignation - by Hammerskjold - 06-05-2008, 02:13 AM
Religious Resignation - by Occhidiangela - 06-05-2008, 02:15 AM
Religious Resignation - by Jester - 06-05-2008, 02:48 AM
Religious Resignation - by kandrathe - 06-05-2008, 05:25 AM
Religious Resignation - by Jester - 06-05-2008, 06:07 AM
Religious Resignation - by kandrathe - 06-05-2008, 04:23 PM
Religious Resignation - by Jester - 06-05-2008, 05:06 PM
Religious Resignation - by kandrathe - 06-05-2008, 06:53 PM
Religious Resignation - by Jester - 06-05-2008, 07:18 PM
Religious Resignation - by Mavfin - 06-05-2008, 07:43 PM
Religious Resignation - by --Pete - 06-05-2008, 11:39 PM
Religious Resignation - by kandrathe - 06-06-2008, 01:16 AM
Religious Resignation - by kandrathe - 06-06-2008, 01:28 AM
Religious Resignation - by Jester - 06-06-2008, 05:20 AM
Religious Resignation - by kandrathe - 06-06-2008, 05:45 AM
Religious Resignation - by Jester - 06-06-2008, 06:32 AM
Religious Resignation - by Jester - 06-06-2008, 07:05 AM
Religious Resignation - by kandrathe - 06-06-2008, 03:50 PM
Religious Resignation - by Jester - 06-06-2008, 09:47 PM
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Religious Resignation - by Jester - 06-07-2008, 03:36 AM
Religious Resignation - by --Pete - 06-07-2008, 04:22 AM
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