May News/Discussions
#90
Quote:So if you get at least 2 drops from a 25 man boss and sometimes 3, but you only ever get 1 from a 10 man boss even if they have the same loot tables how does that work out? That should work out to the same rate of drops unless you end up on the extreme end of the curve for if you got 2 or 3 in the 25 man.

I suppose i didn't explicitly state this, but I meant to imply in my definition of "equal".

I do not feel that you should be able to go into a 10 man and get X amount of loot and have that be equal to the amount of loot that you would get in the 25 man version. Just that the Tier of loot should be the same. If you can get 10 loot drops in a 10 player you should get 25 in a 25 player (and even slightly more from the 25 allowing people that do the 25 to gear up a bit faster than would in the 10).

I feel that blizzard's solution to the "25 player raids require more social effort and frustration" by giving them stronger items has only compounded the problem. And the end result is a weapons race of loot. Not only do you have to deal with the inherant social issues of getting 25 people together but you also have to deal with the fact that many people are there not because they want to be, but just because it is the next stop for them on the loot train. I think this shows in the epic collapse of DnT which was linked above. If, however, you could alternatively gear up in the corresponding 10 player instances much of these added pressures would be alleviated. It would be much easier to transition people in and out of raiding so burnout would be less of an issue as well as the need to find new people to fill spots that are empty.
Reply


Messages In This Thread
May News/Discussions - by Mirajj - 05-02-2008, 05:51 AM
May News/Discussions - by Swiss Mercenary - 05-06-2008, 05:00 AM
May News/Discussions - by Mirajj - 05-06-2008, 05:06 AM
May News/Discussions - by Mirajj - 05-06-2008, 05:33 AM
May News/Discussions - by NiteFox - 05-06-2008, 09:32 AM
May News/Discussions - by Swiss Mercenary - 05-06-2008, 01:34 PM
May News/Discussions - by kandrathe - 05-06-2008, 04:40 PM
May News/Discussions - by Concillian - 05-06-2008, 05:53 PM
May News/Discussions - by Mordekhuul - 05-06-2008, 06:35 PM
May News/Discussions - by Taelas - 05-06-2008, 06:53 PM
May News/Discussions - by Kevin - 05-06-2008, 07:08 PM
May News/Discussions - by LochnarITB - 05-06-2008, 07:11 PM
May News/Discussions - by Taelas - 05-06-2008, 08:30 PM
May News/Discussions - by Concillian - 05-06-2008, 09:55 PM
May News/Discussions - by Mordekhuul - 05-06-2008, 10:01 PM
May News/Discussions - by Skandranon - 05-06-2008, 11:23 PM
May News/Discussions - by Swiss Mercenary - 05-07-2008, 12:48 AM
May News/Discussions - by Concillian - 05-07-2008, 01:38 AM
May News/Discussions - by Kevin - 05-07-2008, 02:02 AM
May News/Discussions - by Swiss Mercenary - 05-07-2008, 05:52 AM
May News/Discussions - by NiteFox - 05-07-2008, 10:04 AM
May News/Discussions - by LochnarITB - 05-07-2008, 10:55 AM
May News/Discussions - by Mordekhuul - 05-07-2008, 02:49 PM
May News/Discussions - by Mavfin - 05-08-2008, 08:05 PM
May News/Discussions - by Mordekhuul - 05-08-2008, 08:36 PM
May News/Discussions - by Kevin - 05-08-2008, 08:38 PM
May News/Discussions - by Lissa - 05-09-2008, 01:16 AM
May News/Discussions - by Kevin - 05-09-2008, 01:22 AM
May News/Discussions - by Lissa - 05-09-2008, 01:37 AM
May News/Discussions - by Kevin - 05-09-2008, 02:08 AM
May News/Discussions - by Mirajj - 05-09-2008, 01:07 PM
May News/Discussions - by Mordekhuul - 05-09-2008, 03:42 PM
May News/Discussions - by RTM - 05-09-2008, 06:15 PM
May News/Discussions - by Monkey - 05-09-2008, 08:37 PM
May News/Discussions - by Taelas - 05-09-2008, 11:10 PM
May News/Discussions - by Warlock - 05-10-2008, 02:03 AM
May News/Discussions - by Mavfin - 05-10-2008, 02:38 AM
May News/Discussions - by Kevin - 05-10-2008, 08:01 AM
May News/Discussions - by Mirajj - 05-13-2008, 01:43 PM
May News/Discussions - by Mordekhuul - 05-13-2008, 02:23 PM
May News/Discussions - by Monkey - 05-13-2008, 02:45 PM
May News/Discussions - by Concillian - 05-13-2008, 07:54 PM
May News/Discussions - by Treesh - 05-13-2008, 08:09 PM
May News/Discussions - by Bolty - 05-13-2008, 08:12 PM
May News/Discussions - by Icebird - 05-14-2008, 03:27 AM
May News/Discussions - by Bolty - 05-14-2008, 12:39 PM
May News/Discussions - by Mordekhuul - 05-14-2008, 02:50 PM
May News/Discussions - by oldmandennis - 05-14-2008, 05:02 PM
May News/Discussions - by Swiss Mercenary - 05-15-2008, 06:02 AM
May News/Discussions - by Mordekhuul - 05-15-2008, 12:39 PM
May News/Discussions - by Skandranon - 05-15-2008, 05:37 PM
May News/Discussions - by Mordekhuul - 05-15-2008, 06:34 PM
May News/Discussions - by Swiss Mercenary - 05-16-2008, 01:14 PM
May News/Discussions - by Mirajj - 05-17-2008, 09:55 PM
May News/Discussions - by oldmandennis - 05-19-2008, 11:59 PM
May News/Discussions - by Mirajj - 05-20-2008, 04:50 AM
May News/Discussions - by Mordekhuul - 05-20-2008, 05:08 AM
May News/Discussions - by Swiss Mercenary - 05-20-2008, 05:52 AM
May News/Discussions - by Monkey - 05-20-2008, 01:59 PM
May News/Discussions - by Mirajj - 05-20-2008, 02:26 PM
May News/Discussions - by oldmandennis - 05-21-2008, 04:37 PM
May News/Discussions - by LochnarITB - 05-21-2008, 08:00 PM
May News/Discussions - by --Pete - 05-21-2008, 11:11 PM
May News/Discussions - by Mirajj - 05-22-2008, 02:14 AM
May News/Discussions - by oldmandennis - 05-22-2008, 05:49 PM
May News/Discussions - by LochnarITB - 05-22-2008, 11:20 PM
May News/Discussions - by Taelas - 05-23-2008, 03:44 AM
May News/Discussions - by Mordekhuul - 05-23-2008, 12:37 PM
May News/Discussions - by Tal - 05-23-2008, 12:53 PM
May News/Discussions - by Delc - 05-23-2008, 01:57 PM
May News/Discussions - by Monkey - 05-23-2008, 02:00 PM
May News/Discussions - by Mirajj - 05-23-2008, 02:05 PM
May News/Discussions - by Mirajj - 05-23-2008, 02:24 PM
May News/Discussions - by LochnarITB - 05-23-2008, 03:56 PM
May News/Discussions - by Monkey - 05-23-2008, 04:10 PM
May News/Discussions - by Chesspiece_face - 05-23-2008, 04:25 PM
May News/Discussions - by oldmandennis - 05-23-2008, 04:38 PM
May News/Discussions - by --Pete - 05-23-2008, 05:49 PM
May News/Discussions - by LochnarITB - 05-23-2008, 07:53 PM
May News/Discussions - by Chesspiece_face - 05-24-2008, 03:59 AM
May News/Discussions - by Skandranon - 05-24-2008, 05:46 AM
May News/Discussions - by Chesspiece_face - 05-24-2008, 06:09 AM
May News/Discussions - by Pantalaimon - 05-24-2008, 06:11 AM
May News/Discussions - by Pantalaimon - 05-24-2008, 06:15 AM
May News/Discussions - by Chesspiece_face - 05-24-2008, 06:38 AM
May News/Discussions - by Skandranon - 05-24-2008, 07:31 AM
May News/Discussions - by Kevin - 05-24-2008, 08:33 AM
May News/Discussions - by Kevin - 05-24-2008, 08:38 AM
May News/Discussions - by Frag - 05-24-2008, 03:14 PM
May News/Discussions - by Chesspiece_face - 05-24-2008, 05:50 PM
May News/Discussions - by Kevin - 05-24-2008, 08:31 PM
May News/Discussions - by Skandranon - 05-24-2008, 08:41 PM
May News/Discussions - by Mavfin - 05-24-2008, 10:19 PM
May News/Discussions - by Skandranon - 05-25-2008, 12:33 AM
May News/Discussions - by Chesspiece_face - 05-25-2008, 01:00 AM
May News/Discussions - by Taelas - 05-25-2008, 12:55 PM
May News/Discussions - by Monkey - 05-25-2008, 02:42 PM
May News/Discussions - by Taelas - 05-25-2008, 03:21 PM
May News/Discussions - by --Pete - 05-25-2008, 04:20 PM
May News/Discussions - by Taelas - 05-25-2008, 04:55 PM
May News/Discussions - by Chesspiece_face - 05-25-2008, 05:40 PM
May News/Discussions - by Taelas - 05-25-2008, 06:35 PM
May News/Discussions - by Skandranon - 05-25-2008, 07:07 PM
May News/Discussions - by --Pete - 05-25-2008, 07:18 PM
May News/Discussions - by Taelas - 05-25-2008, 07:28 PM
May News/Discussions - by --Pete - 05-25-2008, 07:46 PM
May News/Discussions - by Skandranon - 05-25-2008, 08:00 PM
May News/Discussions - by Taelas - 05-25-2008, 08:21 PM
May News/Discussions - by Warlock - 05-25-2008, 11:12 PM
May News/Discussions - by Lissa - 05-26-2008, 03:07 PM
May News/Discussions - by Chesspiece_face - 05-26-2008, 07:26 PM
May News/Discussions - by Mirajj - 05-27-2008, 05:21 AM
May News/Discussions - by oldmandennis - 05-27-2008, 05:34 PM
May News/Discussions - by Taelas - 05-27-2008, 06:59 PM
May News/Discussions - by Swiss Mercenary - 05-27-2008, 07:22 PM
May News/Discussions - by Chesspiece_face - 05-27-2008, 07:28 PM
May News/Discussions - by Pantalaimon - 05-27-2008, 08:07 PM
May News/Discussions - by Kevin - 05-27-2008, 08:30 PM
May News/Discussions - by oldmandennis - 05-27-2008, 08:43 PM
May News/Discussions - by --Pete - 05-27-2008, 08:58 PM
May News/Discussions - by Skandranon - 05-27-2008, 09:17 PM
May News/Discussions - by Chesspiece_face - 05-27-2008, 11:29 PM
May News/Discussions - by Lissa - 05-28-2008, 12:35 AM
May News/Discussions - by Icebird - 05-28-2008, 04:46 AM
May News/Discussions - by Skandranon - 05-29-2008, 08:16 AM
May News/Discussions - by Lissa - 05-29-2008, 11:42 PM
May News/Discussions - by Taelas - 05-30-2008, 04:02 AM
May News/Discussions - by Skandranon - 05-30-2008, 04:35 AM
May News/Discussions - by Lissa - 05-30-2008, 11:06 AM
May News/Discussions - by Taelas - 05-30-2008, 12:16 PM
May News/Discussions - by oldmandennis - 05-30-2008, 12:29 PM
May News/Discussions - by Taelas - 05-30-2008, 12:59 PM
May News/Discussions - by Swiss Mercenary - 05-30-2008, 02:39 PM
May News/Discussions - by ArchNemesis - 05-30-2008, 10:30 PM
May News/Discussions - by Lissa - 05-30-2008, 10:59 PM
May News/Discussions - by Skandranon - 05-30-2008, 11:32 PM
May News/Discussions - by Lissa - 05-31-2008, 01:50 AM
May News/Discussions - by Pantalaimon - 05-31-2008, 03:55 AM
May News/Discussions - by Chesspiece_face - 05-31-2008, 05:38 AM
May News/Discussions - by Lissa - 05-31-2008, 02:24 PM
May News/Discussions - by Mirajj - 05-31-2008, 02:57 PM
May News/Discussions - by Swiss Mercenary - 05-31-2008, 04:01 PM
May News/Discussions - by lfd - 06-02-2008, 08:51 PM
May News/Discussions - by Bolty - 06-03-2008, 01:08 PM
May News/Discussions - by oldmandennis - 06-03-2008, 10:10 PM

Forum Jump:


Users browsing this thread: 13 Guest(s)