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Quote:Which is exactly the point. If we assume that by introducing equal loot in 10 man instances as there is in 25 man instances would turn the 25 man instances into ghost towns than that just goes to show there is an inherant problem with the design of the 25 man instances.

Or it could show that you are getting two and a half times more items from the ten-man. This is what I meant by the fallacy of "equal". If you put the same loot in both instances, merely by virtue of numbers, the ten-manners get more, even if the content is equally difficult and time consuming.

I'm not sure how you're misunderstanding the point, but Pantalaimon put it perfectly. If I, as a self-maximizing raider, have a choice between getting two items and one item, that's obviously going to be a massive factor in the choice of the content I play. That doesn't show that something's wrong with 25-mans. It shows that you get more items per person from the 10-man, and it shows that people like getting items. Neither of these are contentious propositions.
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