06-17-2003, 02:53 PM
Ignatz,
I'm also becoming very frustrated with the ladder idea also. I play on the realms with friends, but generally I dont trade. I can count the number of items I got from friends on one hand: 3. None of them are high level items, just loaners. My point? I'm legit. I play with others, but I dont trade. I'm not uber. I've worked long and hard on the characters I have. Other than when the expansion came out, I've never had any of my characters become useless, and since I make weird builds anyway, all but one of them could be classified as no better or worse.
So, I'm pretty much dreading all my characters becoming big sucking voids with a character level on them, especially since I worked my way up from the ground floor. I dont have uber items. I may have +3 or +4 to skills on my better characters. Do you know how frustrating it is to take a CB + Hydra sorceress through hell, with no special gear? Frustrating, let me tell you. And satisfying. Now I'm 90% sure that character will be next to useless. Maybe I'm a complainer, but I feel like all these ladder-only changes aren't really going to hurt power gamers, and maybe I'm a cynic, but I dont think it will stop cheaters. But it does make honest guys like me have to "start over" again. WHY?! I liked my high level characters too (Highest is 85, next highest is 69, tho in the past I've had high level characters I lost through lack of attendance, accidental deletions, etc). I usually play new characters, but I dont like losing the ability for my old characters to be effective.
Frankly, I'd rather they just delete everybody's items once a year. At least then the time you spent on your character wouldnt be wasted. You'd know that Hydra 24, Fire Mastery 24 would cut the mustard. Now I'm not so sure.
I wasn't planning to play in the ladder because I was hoping I could have fun in the normal realms at least in Nightmare difficulty with my higher level guys, but now all these ladder-only things are just becoming frustrating. The runes listed in the most recent ladder-only formula, I've never had. Never seen, even though I play on the realms. Most of the new ladder-only items that we've seen I am pretty sure I'll never see. But that's the point ... it was a long road for me, a non-power-gamer, to make it where I am. The new changes are made to force the power players to toughen up and work together more. I feel like I'll never see that way of play, becase thats not who I am, and I feel that hell difficulty for me will become impossible.
And yet, I cant stand some part of the game not being accessible to me, even if I will never attain it, so I feel "forced" to play ladder. It's damned annoying, I tell you.
Ah well.
Lewis
I'm also becoming very frustrated with the ladder idea also. I play on the realms with friends, but generally I dont trade. I can count the number of items I got from friends on one hand: 3. None of them are high level items, just loaners. My point? I'm legit. I play with others, but I dont trade. I'm not uber. I've worked long and hard on the characters I have. Other than when the expansion came out, I've never had any of my characters become useless, and since I make weird builds anyway, all but one of them could be classified as no better or worse.
So, I'm pretty much dreading all my characters becoming big sucking voids with a character level on them, especially since I worked my way up from the ground floor. I dont have uber items. I may have +3 or +4 to skills on my better characters. Do you know how frustrating it is to take a CB + Hydra sorceress through hell, with no special gear? Frustrating, let me tell you. And satisfying. Now I'm 90% sure that character will be next to useless. Maybe I'm a complainer, but I feel like all these ladder-only changes aren't really going to hurt power gamers, and maybe I'm a cynic, but I dont think it will stop cheaters. But it does make honest guys like me have to "start over" again. WHY?! I liked my high level characters too (Highest is 85, next highest is 69, tho in the past I've had high level characters I lost through lack of attendance, accidental deletions, etc). I usually play new characters, but I dont like losing the ability for my old characters to be effective.
Frankly, I'd rather they just delete everybody's items once a year. At least then the time you spent on your character wouldnt be wasted. You'd know that Hydra 24, Fire Mastery 24 would cut the mustard. Now I'm not so sure.
I wasn't planning to play in the ladder because I was hoping I could have fun in the normal realms at least in Nightmare difficulty with my higher level guys, but now all these ladder-only things are just becoming frustrating. The runes listed in the most recent ladder-only formula, I've never had. Never seen, even though I play on the realms. Most of the new ladder-only items that we've seen I am pretty sure I'll never see. But that's the point ... it was a long road for me, a non-power-gamer, to make it where I am. The new changes are made to force the power players to toughen up and work together more. I feel like I'll never see that way of play, becase thats not who I am, and I feel that hell difficulty for me will become impossible.
And yet, I cant stand some part of the game not being accessible to me, even if I will never attain it, so I feel "forced" to play ladder. It's damned annoying, I tell you.
Ah well.
Lewis
Lewis
aka *westcats, USWest, SC
aka *sevencats, *weirdcats, USEast, SC
aka *westcats, USWest, SC
aka *sevencats, *weirdcats, USEast, SC