06-16-2003, 10:12 PM
Quote:Both of these would fall under the general heading of 'twinking' and I don't see any real problem with it. I treat each account on Bnet as a 'clan' so to speak. Gear within that clan, can be moved within that account. I will not move gear from account to account however. No real reason for it, other than some degree of self imposed controls I guess.
Well then what in the world do you call trading? Your trading gear from another player who probably received his MF droppings from a twinked-out, high-level magic finder, unless youâre implying that you've never traded before. This 'non-twinking' way of thinking makes no sense unless you NEVER take items from anyone else... EVER! But then you have a moral dilemma when an item falls and you really need it and someone your traveling with just happens to pick it up... do you take it from them if they offer it too you? If you do, and they are of higher level than you, then by that definition of twinking you are a twinker. Furthermore, even if you made the kill from whence the item dropped simply because you took the item from a higher leveled character you are twinking. Ridiculous? Yah, I'd say so.
Oh yes and FYI, most players on battle.net will "mule" items from their higher leveled characters to lower leveled "mule" characters that cannot and will not ever wear or use these items in their lifetimes. Their sole purpose is holding, so when you do trade for items, your actually trading, most of the time, from a lower leveled character. So I ask you is this okay? You know the items were found from a higher leveled character, but a level 1 is trading them to you so are you twinking? Not by definition, but most would argue otherwise.
So how do you justify trading and twinking as not being one of the same, especially with the current state of battle.net? For example, there is a post down a bit about someone who offered 30 chipped gems in the trading channels and was offered all sorts of hacked, bugged, duped, 'just-about-everything-you-can-ask-for' items for 30 chipped gems. Now how can you justify finding 30 chipped gems by level 1-5 and trading them for Sigons Set to use by level 9-13? Sounds like a twinky to me... I don't care if you define it as "trading".
Okay, so say you don't trade for items, and you consider items that drop in a game to be fair game for anyone, regardless of who got the kill so long as your in the same party - with me so far? Now youâre in a party whose killing Diablo and needs some help so someone whispers in their high-leveled friend who comes in and helps kill (or even does the killing himself) Diablo, but leaves the item droppings on the floor. Do you leave the items there or pick them up if no one else does? How do you define how high a character level is too high a level for your characters level? Is there some sort of etiquette guild for this sort of thing? I think not.
Okay, okay, so you don't trade and you don't pick up items that drop in a game if a "*higher" leveled character did the final blow, unless you somehow helped in the slaughter regardless of how little damage you did - with me so far? Now, you find some worthless jewels and some perfect gems. Your other character has some runes that would work to make a nice craft that you could really use. As pointed out by yourself, if you give these items form one character to the other and either one is of higher level, your still twinking :lol: .
The whole concept of twinking being cheating is ludicrous if you play on Battle.net! Just face it, your a twinky ;) !
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