Yet another religious cult raided
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Quote:You have no arguments from me on that. I think that if the FLDS would have not married off girls under 18, and allowed women to leave with their children whenever they pleased that the State's may have left them alone. As it is, the sect has become overly oppressive and antithetical to modern American notions of liberty. But, it's another Waco, without the violence. The government is intent on destroying this sect, which should make people stand up and take notice.

I did.

I also cheered. Religious dogma cannot trump civil law, not if we expect to retain any equity, any rule of law.

Regardless of the intent (which I think is more benign than you do, to no one's surprise) every government act I've heard of has been logically directed at gaining evidence of the crime reported, and to protect children for which there was ample evidence of a pattern of abuse, as defined by the secular state. The authorities appear to be moving cautiously, with attention to the niceties.

As to destroying the sect, I find it unlikely anyone who wishes this will be gratified. Already Legal Aid is being deluged with calls from the women whose children were placed in state custody. I speculate there will be a lot of lawyers flocking to their side in short order. I hope, but am not optimistic, that some of these women will take the opportunity to choose to exit the FLDS.
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Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-14-2008, 01:56 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Quark - 04-14-2008, 02:14 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jester - 04-14-2008, 05:26 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Quark - 04-14-2008, 07:52 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-14-2008, 08:56 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-14-2008, 08:59 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Obi2Kenobi - 04-14-2008, 09:20 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Quark - 04-14-2008, 10:01 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Quark - 04-14-2008, 11:12 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by eppie - 04-15-2008, 06:33 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by eppie - 04-15-2008, 06:35 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Quark - 04-15-2008, 11:08 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Quark - 04-15-2008, 11:16 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-15-2008, 02:27 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Bun-Bun - 04-15-2008, 02:52 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Bun-Bun - 04-15-2008, 02:58 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Delc - 04-15-2008, 04:07 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jester - 04-15-2008, 04:28 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-15-2008, 05:02 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Bun-Bun - 04-15-2008, 05:40 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-15-2008, 06:09 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jester - 04-15-2008, 06:35 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-15-2008, 07:00 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by TheDragoon - 04-15-2008, 07:25 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jester - 04-15-2008, 07:29 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-15-2008, 07:36 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-15-2008, 07:51 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by eppie - 04-15-2008, 07:52 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jester - 04-15-2008, 08:05 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-15-2008, 08:08 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jester - 04-15-2008, 08:12 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-15-2008, 08:13 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jester - 04-15-2008, 08:19 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-15-2008, 08:31 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-15-2008, 08:37 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jester - 04-15-2008, 08:49 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jester - 04-15-2008, 08:51 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-15-2008, 09:26 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-15-2008, 09:44 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Bun-Bun - 04-15-2008, 09:52 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jester - 04-15-2008, 09:53 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jester - 04-15-2008, 09:55 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-15-2008, 10:14 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-15-2008, 10:19 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by tmsti - 04-15-2008, 11:11 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Bun-Bun - 04-15-2008, 11:22 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jester - 04-15-2008, 11:36 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-16-2008, 04:56 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-16-2008, 05:34 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jester - 04-16-2008, 06:31 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-16-2008, 07:09 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jester - 04-16-2008, 08:04 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-16-2008, 01:55 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Bun-Bun - 04-16-2008, 01:58 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-16-2008, 02:30 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Bun-Bun - 04-16-2008, 06:03 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Bun-Bun - 04-16-2008, 10:05 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-16-2008, 10:33 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-16-2008, 10:44 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-16-2008, 11:01 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jester - 04-17-2008, 04:06 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by eppie - 04-17-2008, 06:46 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Vandiablo - 04-17-2008, 08:33 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-17-2008, 09:06 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by eppie - 04-17-2008, 01:13 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jester - 04-17-2008, 03:05 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Bun-Bun - 04-17-2008, 06:02 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-17-2008, 07:45 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jester - 04-17-2008, 08:28 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-17-2008, 08:43 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by eppie - 04-17-2008, 09:03 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jester - 04-17-2008, 09:17 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-17-2008, 09:19 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jester - 04-17-2008, 09:33 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Bun-Bun - 04-17-2008, 09:51 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-17-2008, 09:55 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Bun-Bun - 04-17-2008, 09:56 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-17-2008, 10:11 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Bun-Bun - 04-17-2008, 10:29 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-17-2008, 11:05 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jester - 04-17-2008, 11:19 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Bun-Bun - 04-18-2008, 12:16 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-18-2008, 01:34 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Quark - 04-18-2008, 03:01 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-18-2008, 03:24 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Bun-Bun - 04-18-2008, 04:34 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Griselda - 04-18-2008, 05:09 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jester - 04-18-2008, 05:10 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by eppie - 04-18-2008, 07:01 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by eppie - 04-18-2008, 07:08 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Quark - 04-18-2008, 12:31 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Bun-Bun - 04-18-2008, 02:39 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-18-2008, 06:43 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-18-2008, 06:45 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-18-2008, 06:59 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Mordekhuul - 04-18-2008, 07:57 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Bun-Bun - 04-18-2008, 08:07 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-18-2008, 10:03 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-18-2008, 10:36 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Bun-Bun - 04-18-2008, 11:06 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-19-2008, 12:42 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jester - 04-19-2008, 01:02 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-19-2008, 01:32 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jester - 04-19-2008, 01:44 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-19-2008, 01:59 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Bun-Bun - 04-19-2008, 03:16 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-19-2008, 03:29 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Bun-Bun - 04-19-2008, 03:48 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-19-2008, 04:12 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Bun-Bun - 04-19-2008, 05:43 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jester - 04-19-2008, 06:19 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Griselda - 04-19-2008, 01:54 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-19-2008, 03:09 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Zippyy - 04-19-2008, 03:30 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-19-2008, 03:32 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-19-2008, 03:40 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by eppie - 04-20-2008, 10:56 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Quark - 04-20-2008, 03:58 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Griselda - 04-20-2008, 04:57 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-20-2008, 05:48 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by eppie - 04-20-2008, 09:50 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Vandiablo - 04-21-2008, 05:27 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Vandiablo - 04-21-2008, 05:30 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Tal - 04-21-2008, 04:38 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by eppie - 04-21-2008, 05:19 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by eppie - 04-21-2008, 05:26 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by eppie - 04-21-2008, 05:34 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Bolty - 04-21-2008, 06:40 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-21-2008, 08:50 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by eppie - 04-21-2008, 08:56 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by eppie - 04-21-2008, 09:10 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-21-2008, 10:24 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Vandiablo - 04-22-2008, 05:44 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by eppie - 04-22-2008, 06:30 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-22-2008, 02:16 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-22-2008, 02:28 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by eppie - 04-22-2008, 02:36 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Vandiablo - 04-24-2008, 05:12 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Vandiablo - 04-26-2008, 06:10 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by --Pete - 04-27-2008, 03:32 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Vandiablo - 04-27-2008, 04:38 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Vandiablo - 04-27-2008, 05:06 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by --Pete - 04-27-2008, 08:08 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Vandiablo - 04-27-2008, 08:29 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jim - 04-28-2008, 10:46 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-29-2008, 04:52 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jim - 04-29-2008, 01:04 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by eppie - 04-29-2008, 01:44 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by --Pete - 04-29-2008, 04:14 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-29-2008, 10:38 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-30-2008, 12:25 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jim - 04-30-2008, 12:37 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-30-2008, 12:51 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by eppie - 04-30-2008, 06:39 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jim - 04-30-2008, 07:25 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by --Pete - 04-30-2008, 03:14 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by eppie - 04-30-2008, 03:23 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-30-2008, 05:57 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-30-2008, 06:18 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by eppie - 04-30-2008, 06:39 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by --Pete - 04-30-2008, 06:58 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-30-2008, 07:40 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by eppie - 04-30-2008, 09:46 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by eppie - 04-30-2008, 09:50 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-30-2008, 11:30 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by eppie - 05-01-2008, 06:36 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jim - 05-01-2008, 06:45 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jim - 05-01-2008, 11:48 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 05-02-2008, 02:28 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Vandiablo - 05-13-2008, 07:09 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 05-13-2008, 02:28 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Mavfin - 05-15-2008, 08:07 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 05-15-2008, 12:27 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 05-17-2008, 08:02 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 05-20-2008, 09:13 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jim - 05-25-2008, 11:54 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 05-25-2008, 03:23 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 05-28-2008, 10:30 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by eppie - 05-29-2008, 09:38 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 05-29-2008, 06:35 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by --Pete - 05-29-2008, 07:05 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by eppie - 05-29-2008, 07:30 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 05-29-2008, 09:02 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by --Pete - 05-29-2008, 09:26 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 05-30-2008, 01:50 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 05-30-2008, 01:58 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by --Pete - 05-30-2008, 02:31 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jester - 05-30-2008, 04:47 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by eppie - 05-30-2008, 07:10 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by eppie - 05-30-2008, 07:14 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 05-31-2008, 09:58 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 06-01-2008, 05:20 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by --Pete - 06-01-2008, 06:27 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 06-01-2008, 09:39 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jester - 06-03-2008, 12:20 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 06-03-2008, 12:29 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by --Pete - 06-03-2008, 02:54 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 06-03-2008, 04:48 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 06-03-2008, 05:54 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jester - 06-03-2008, 08:05 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Vandiablo - 06-04-2008, 03:00 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Vandiablo - 06-04-2008, 04:46 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 06-04-2008, 05:04 AM

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