Is Obama hurting the Democratic Party by not joining forces with Hilla

[kandrathe]

Okay. And when you said that Jim Jones was a better comparison, moving from one suicide cult lunatic to another suicide cult lunatic, I'm sure you were just trying to find appropriate examples of a charismatic religious leader, and just happened to come across David Koresh, and having found that example ridiculously overblown, immediately went for a more moderate analogy... Jim "Drink the Kool-Aid" Jones.

If you read up on Jim Jones, prior to the running off to Guyana, his social activism and civic leadership was very similiar to what Wright is doing in Chicago. Now, in contrast to Wright, Jim Jones, was addicted to some kind of drugs and then according to Wikipedia... "He claimed to be an incarnation of Jesus, Akhenaten, the Buddha, Lenin, and Father Divine and performed supposed miracle healings to attract new converts. Members of Jones' church called him "Father" and believed their movement was the solution to the problems of society; many did not distinguish Jones from the movement. The church gradually moved away from mainstream Protestant Christianity."

Let me then for the sake of peace between us rescind the "cult of personality" and instead offer "charismatic leader". My belief is that TUCC will not be the same without Wright, and the people who came there mostly came there for him and his sermons.

So, this is my concern and the only parallels I'm drawing, a} charismatic leader of a large and growing flock, b} moving away from mainstream Christianity, c} more than fire and brimstone in these sermons -- more like politics, social activism and calling for a fight against a nebulous "enemy".