Is Obama hurting the Democratic Party by not joining forces with Hilla

[Occhidiangela]

Cheap shot? A toast for you -- I raise my glass and bid you up yours, too!

I'll drink to that.

That you have a hair-trigger insult-o-meter, is what I understand now.

Why don't you learn how to read, or choose your tripe with more precision?

think it's interesting how the conservatives are trying to find the proper mud to fling at him. Here at our non-partisan lounge, Occhi has labeled him a "crook" and wondered if he "has a spine",

You call me out, I will emerge, guns blazing. What are you crying about? You asked for it.

Cheap shot?? ... run the tape ...

I just did, but I note you chose not to run the tape.

Also true that you said that, though I'm to lazy to dig it up.

No, unwilling to run the tape. See above.

Perhaps if you didn't throw the same crap being flung by mindless conservatives, this wouldn't happen as frequently.

Since I don't, you are invited to take a long walk off of a short pier. I speak my own mind, thanks, and I do not care for you to insult me by claiming I do not.

That's two, Van. You are on a roll.

High marks for cynicism, but I don't buy it. When you direct this at a Democrat

It was directed at a politician. Obama is one such. You, Mr Sensitive, have chosen to assume it was his party that was important in my crack. That's your problem. You are talking to me: not Sean Hannity, not Michelle Malkin, not Dick Cheney, not Karl Rove, not Bill O'Reilly, not Rush Limbaugh, but me.

Get that through your thick skull.

If you do that, and clear the kneejerk, broad brushing cobwebs from your cranium, you may begin to grasp where I am coming from. I don't hold much hope, as you seem to have convinced yourself already otherwise. I hear people used to do that about blacks, shoes, and where to defecate. You are in such fine company.

Your attempt at mind reading sucks harder than a Hoover on a vinyl couch.

I have seen enough elections now to know how this mud thing goes.

Indeed, we have both been around long enough to see it play out.

The conservatives

Then take up your complaint with Them, whoever They are. When you are talking to me, talk to me.

Here's a nickel, go rent a clue, it will do you good.

EDIT: Tell ya what, I'll not bother posting here at the Lounge unless I am in a really good mood. That rarely happens anymore, so don't expect to see much.

EDIT II: More fun with politicians and mud slinging. James Carville. He is a master of political spin. So too is Karl Rove. That makes them both professional liars. Note how well paid they are for their efforts, and the status they accrue. What does this tell you about our system, Van?

An act of betrayal,” said James Carville, an adviser to Mrs. Clinton and a friend of Mr. Clinton. “Mr. Richardson’s endorsement came right around the anniversary of the day when Judas sold out for 30 pieces of silver, so I think the timing is appropriate, if ironic,” Mr. Carville said, referring to Holy Week.

Looks like the infamously Hispanic Governor of New Mexico (and a Dem I'd have voted for for President) was not grateful enough, not subservient enough to the great Clinton machine, so he gets some mud thrown at him.

It's a small toss, more and larger clods to follow -- but of course, I am referring to the political candidates.

It's the election season, where mud slinging is the varsity sport.

Occhi