Is Obama hurting the Democratic Party by not joining forces with Hilla

[Occhidiangela]

(Edit: I am not going to continue to answer posts so littered with Ad Hominems. If you enjoy discussing things with me, try to restrict yourself to dismissing me as an ignorant, wishy-washy, ivory tower, clueless, naive, socialist no-nothing who-should-keep-his-nose-out-of-the-US'-business maybe two or three times a post. After that, it starts to get tiresome. If that's actually what I am, why not let me hang myself rather than trying to sell me rope every bloody time?)

When someone I admire vomits forth unthinking tripe, it sometimes gets my goat.

I think you meant know nothing, not no nothing, FWIW.

Yes, I admit, my post was a bit acid in response to that.

Waterboarding is torture. No, this is not my "new religion". Did I have an old religion?
-Jester

Your opinion, worth about what I wiped off of my shoe yesterday.

I don't think you have an old religion, but am willing to admit I don't know either way.

Are you willing to admit you don't know much about the dirty deeds that have to be done to keep the lid on the darker side of human nature for centuries?

Orwell has an infamous passage (perhaps merely attributed to him) about why you can sleep safely at night due to rough men being willing to do violence on your behalf.

Think upon that. They are not doing it in your name, and in the main, as I noted above, professional interrogators are leary of brute coercion as a means for inducing information gathering, which is why it isn't common practice.

If KSM was waterboarded, as the CIA director publicly acknowledged, then as far as I am concerned, good.

Occhi