02-20-2008, 02:53 AM
I recently realized one important side effect of this change for any and all classes concerned about mana-regen.
Darkmoon card: Blue Dragon will be among the best mana regen trinkets in the game. It was already good, but now it's RIDICULOUS. It apparently does not have a cooldown so math is exceedingly easy as proc trinkets go.
Compare my stats before / after patch.
CoH spam mode uptime (note this is what it would be for pallies too) = ~35 casts per 60 seconds = 15 / 86 = 17.4%
Normal casting uptime = ~20 casts per 60 seconds = 15 / 150 = 10%
Proc rate assumes that each cast of CoH can trigger. If each individual heal of CoH can trigger, umm, uptime will be extremely good.
The nature of the trinket means you can just take the uptime percentage times your out of FSR MP5 minus your inside FSR MP5.
CURRENT PATCH:
Buffed in FSR MP5 = 256
Buffed out of FST MP5 = 529
Difference = 273
Effective MP5 = 47.5 (spam) / 27.3 (normal)
For reference Alchemist's stone was worth 35 MP5 to me on our last Void Reaver kill where I am quite mana-taxed by spamming CoH. Alchy stone also provides 15 INT / SPI / STAM so this is essentially on a par when spamcasting and worse when not. Still more powerful than a L60 trinket should be, but not grossly overwhelming
PTR MODEL:
Buffed in FSR MP5 = 304
Buffed out of FST MP5 = 808
Difference = 504
Effective MP5 = 87.7 (spam) / 50.4 (normal)
50 MP5 when not casting all that often? 87 MP5 when spamcasting?
Uhh... WTB Beast deck, PST.
I Imagine this is also going to be reasonably decent for Shaman and perhaps even pallies as well...
Let's look at one of our shaman:
CURRENT:
Buffed in FSR = 290
Buffed out of FSR = 468
difference = 178
effective MP5 = 31 (spam) / 17.8 (normal)
PTR:
Buffed in FSR = 290
Buffed out of FSR = 618
difference = 328
effective MP5 = 57.1 (spam) / 32.8 (normal)
Still decent even for a non-spirit based class (this was based on Jenjan, who has 176 spirit), but defeinitely not the OP crazy regen trinket it would be for priests / druids.
They have to nerf something. A L60 trinket worth like 80 MP5?
Darkmoon card: Blue Dragon will be among the best mana regen trinkets in the game. It was already good, but now it's RIDICULOUS. It apparently does not have a cooldown so math is exceedingly easy as proc trinkets go.
Compare my stats before / after patch.
CoH spam mode uptime (note this is what it would be for pallies too) = ~35 casts per 60 seconds = 15 / 86 = 17.4%
Normal casting uptime = ~20 casts per 60 seconds = 15 / 150 = 10%
Proc rate assumes that each cast of CoH can trigger. If each individual heal of CoH can trigger, umm, uptime will be extremely good.
The nature of the trinket means you can just take the uptime percentage times your out of FSR MP5 minus your inside FSR MP5.
CURRENT PATCH:
Buffed in FSR MP5 = 256
Buffed out of FST MP5 = 529
Difference = 273
Effective MP5 = 47.5 (spam) / 27.3 (normal)
For reference Alchemist's stone was worth 35 MP5 to me on our last Void Reaver kill where I am quite mana-taxed by spamming CoH. Alchy stone also provides 15 INT / SPI / STAM so this is essentially on a par when spamcasting and worse when not. Still more powerful than a L60 trinket should be, but not grossly overwhelming
PTR MODEL:
Buffed in FSR MP5 = 304
Buffed out of FST MP5 = 808
Difference = 504
Effective MP5 = 87.7 (spam) / 50.4 (normal)
50 MP5 when not casting all that often? 87 MP5 when spamcasting?
Uhh... WTB Beast deck, PST.
I Imagine this is also going to be reasonably decent for Shaman and perhaps even pallies as well...
Let's look at one of our shaman:
CURRENT:
Buffed in FSR = 290
Buffed out of FSR = 468
difference = 178
effective MP5 = 31 (spam) / 17.8 (normal)
PTR:
Buffed in FSR = 290
Buffed out of FSR = 618
difference = 328
effective MP5 = 57.1 (spam) / 32.8 (normal)
Still decent even for a non-spirit based class (this was based on Jenjan, who has 176 spirit), but defeinitely not the OP crazy regen trinket it would be for priests / druids.
They have to nerf something. A L60 trinket worth like 80 MP5?
Conc / Concillian -- Vintage player of many games. Deadly leader of the All Pally Team (or was it Death leader?)
Terenas WoW player... while we waited for Diablo III.
And it came... and it went... and I played Hearthstone longer than Diablo III.
Terenas WoW player... while we waited for Diablo III.
And it came... and it went... and I played Hearthstone longer than Diablo III.