Patch 2.4 Notes
#46
Quote:The people I am talking about are the ones who, for whatever reason, do not start raiding 25-mans till 2.4.

With this change, they can skip SSC/TK progression (which, by the way, would bump the people who start now up to Kil'jaeden), and get straight to the "interesting" stuff (i.e. the three Big Bads, Archimonde, Illidan, and later, Kil'jaeden).

And Karazhan. Confining our discussion to these hypothetical start-in-2.4 raiders, I think that if a raid group has the coordination and numbers and playtime to complete BT/Hyjal in a timely fashion even with T6 gear, they are likely already there. So by definition we're talking about people with really limited playtime, and perhaps who can't get together as many times a week as they could. Karazhan absorbs a raid night, and groups like this probably don't have more than two other nights. In those two other raid nights, they can loot some Hyjal pinatas and then meet an endless wave of face smashing from the later bosses there and possibly from as early as the first boss in BT. The only way these particular groups can learn how to avoid the face smashing is to learn basic raiding concepts in TK/SSC - the places they've skipped. But they won't go to those places to learn, because the loot in there is not relevant. Again, incentives have wound up at cross-purposes. You want to do one thing for loot, and a different thing to learn/experience content.
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Patch 2.4 Notes - by Quark - 02-09-2008, 03:26 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Taelas - 02-09-2008, 04:25 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Mavfin - 02-09-2008, 04:58 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by LochnarITB - 02-09-2008, 05:15 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Mirajj - 02-09-2008, 06:44 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by LochnarITB - 02-09-2008, 10:48 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Skandranon - 02-09-2008, 10:57 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by LochnarITB - 02-09-2008, 01:01 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Taelas - 02-09-2008, 01:15 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Quark - 02-09-2008, 02:04 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Mirajj - 02-09-2008, 06:01 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Lissa - 02-09-2008, 06:59 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by TheDragoon - 02-09-2008, 07:11 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by RTM - 02-09-2008, 08:01 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Kevin - 02-09-2008, 08:48 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Bolty - 02-09-2008, 09:17 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Bolty - 02-09-2008, 09:42 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by TheDragoon - 02-09-2008, 10:26 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Skandranon - 02-09-2008, 11:55 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Mavfin - 02-10-2008, 12:33 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Skandranon - 02-10-2008, 12:59 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by RTM - 02-10-2008, 01:04 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Warlock - 02-10-2008, 01:09 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Skandranon - 02-10-2008, 01:29 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by RTM - 02-10-2008, 03:02 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Taelas - 02-10-2008, 03:47 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Skandranon - 02-10-2008, 07:46 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Skandranon - 02-10-2008, 08:56 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Skandranon - 02-10-2008, 09:32 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Skandranon - 02-10-2008, 09:49 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Mirajj - 02-10-2008, 03:16 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by TheDragoon - 02-10-2008, 04:23 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Jester - 02-10-2008, 08:37 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by TheDragoon - 02-10-2008, 08:54 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Lissa - 02-11-2008, 01:31 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Skandranon - 02-11-2008, 01:34 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Jester - 02-11-2008, 05:04 AM
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Patch 2.4 Notes - by Sheep - 02-11-2008, 08:13 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Kevin - 02-11-2008, 08:57 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Taelas - 02-11-2008, 12:12 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Quark - 02-11-2008, 01:32 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Mavfin - 02-11-2008, 02:01 PM
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Patch 2.4 Notes - by Monkey - 02-11-2008, 10:21 PM
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Patch 2.4 Notes - by Skandranon - 02-12-2008, 01:07 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Mavfin - 02-12-2008, 02:38 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Concillian - 02-12-2008, 06:08 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Delc - 02-12-2008, 06:50 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by NiteFox - 02-12-2008, 07:09 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by LavCat - 02-12-2008, 08:21 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Artega - 02-12-2008, 08:31 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Mordekhuul - 02-12-2008, 09:10 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Monkey - 02-13-2008, 01:15 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by TheDragoon - 02-13-2008, 02:46 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Mordekhuul - 02-13-2008, 06:28 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by oldmandennis - 02-13-2008, 11:05 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Skandranon - 02-13-2008, 11:16 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by oldmandennis - 02-14-2008, 12:25 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Mavfin - 02-14-2008, 03:30 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Jester - 02-14-2008, 03:58 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Mavfin - 02-14-2008, 04:29 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Warlock - 02-14-2008, 05:50 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Taelas - 02-14-2008, 06:03 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Warlock - 02-14-2008, 11:58 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Taelas - 02-14-2008, 12:19 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by oldmandennis - 02-14-2008, 06:55 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Taelas - 02-15-2008, 10:47 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by oldmandennis - 02-15-2008, 05:40 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Skandranon - 02-15-2008, 09:34 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by oldmandennis - 02-15-2008, 10:10 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Taelas - 02-15-2008, 10:48 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Jester - 02-16-2008, 12:19 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Concillian - 02-16-2008, 12:34 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Skandranon - 02-16-2008, 02:02 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Skandranon - 02-16-2008, 02:20 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Taelas - 02-16-2008, 03:12 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by oldmandennis - 02-19-2008, 09:42 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Monkey - 02-19-2008, 10:17 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Mordekhuul - 02-19-2008, 10:33 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Lissa - 02-19-2008, 10:42 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Mordekhuul - 02-20-2008, 12:04 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Skandranon - 02-20-2008, 12:36 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Skandranon - 02-20-2008, 12:39 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Kevin - 02-20-2008, 12:52 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Concillian - 02-20-2008, 01:02 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Jester - 02-20-2008, 01:16 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Skandranon - 02-20-2008, 01:38 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Jester - 02-20-2008, 01:47 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by oldmandennis - 02-20-2008, 09:44 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Jester - 02-20-2008, 10:05 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Mordekhuul - 02-20-2008, 04:18 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Warlock - 02-20-2008, 09:14 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Gorthag - 02-22-2008, 03:18 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Sir_Die_alot - 02-22-2008, 04:25 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Mordekhuul - 02-22-2008, 05:22 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by lorecraft - 02-25-2008, 07:36 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by lorecraft - 02-25-2008, 07:43 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Monkey - 02-26-2008, 03:29 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Icebird - 02-26-2008, 11:54 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Bolty - 02-27-2008, 06:53 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Taelas - 02-27-2008, 10:29 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Mavfin - 02-27-2008, 03:21 PM

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