Patch 2.4 Notes
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Quote:I see the badge vendor as being the same. Just make the bigger boss mobs drop more, and the elite will get the gear they want faster (in addition to getting to still play the RNG game, effectively doubling their lootsets) while those aren't quite as good for whatever reason, can plod along (in Heroics/Kara) and eventually end up with some nice shinies, too.

Well, for one thing, there aren't badges on the 25-man bosses. You can say, "if x, you're wrong"; but x isn't true, so you don't really have a point there.

I love the idea of a vendor for loot because the RNG really does screw people. We just completed our first Warglaive set...after four months of Illidan kills. Six months of Gurtogg Bloodboil and we still haven't seen his cape. So on and so forth. The problem I have with it is Badges of Justice, because you can get them from Heroics and Karazhan.

Merely putting badges on 25-man raid bosses doesn't fix it, because for incentive purposes you have to count them against the fact that Kara is 22 badges, requires no additional learning or consumables, only needs ten people, and gets proportionately way easier and faster to clear with better gear. Even if they slapped four badges on each SSC boss, making it 24, Kara would still give better returns, since you have to learn SSC and you don't have to learn Kara.

And again, this hits people with limited playtime hardest. They can't afford to spend that time on badgeless learning time, because you need to foresee an equivalent period of farming to make up the overhead time lost by doing that. They have to use their time farming Kara.

Quote:I've long thought that folks are much too worried about what others are doing in this game. Does it really matter?

Sure does. This is bad design. It means that people won't see a lot of content. I sincerely believe this means lower-end raiders will have less fun. Isn't that worth talking about?
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Patch 2.4 Notes - by Quark - 02-09-2008, 03:26 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Taelas - 02-09-2008, 04:25 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Mavfin - 02-09-2008, 04:58 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by LochnarITB - 02-09-2008, 05:15 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Mirajj - 02-09-2008, 06:44 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by LochnarITB - 02-09-2008, 10:48 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Skandranon - 02-09-2008, 10:57 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by LochnarITB - 02-09-2008, 01:01 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Taelas - 02-09-2008, 01:15 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Quark - 02-09-2008, 02:04 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Mirajj - 02-09-2008, 06:01 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Lissa - 02-09-2008, 06:59 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by TheDragoon - 02-09-2008, 07:11 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by RTM - 02-09-2008, 08:01 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Kevin - 02-09-2008, 08:48 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Bolty - 02-09-2008, 09:17 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Bolty - 02-09-2008, 09:42 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by TheDragoon - 02-09-2008, 10:26 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Skandranon - 02-09-2008, 11:55 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Mavfin - 02-10-2008, 12:33 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Skandranon - 02-10-2008, 12:59 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by RTM - 02-10-2008, 01:04 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Warlock - 02-10-2008, 01:09 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Skandranon - 02-10-2008, 01:29 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by RTM - 02-10-2008, 03:02 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Taelas - 02-10-2008, 03:47 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Skandranon - 02-10-2008, 07:46 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Skandranon - 02-10-2008, 08:56 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Skandranon - 02-10-2008, 09:32 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Skandranon - 02-10-2008, 09:49 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Mirajj - 02-10-2008, 03:16 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by TheDragoon - 02-10-2008, 04:23 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Jester - 02-10-2008, 08:37 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by TheDragoon - 02-10-2008, 08:54 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Lissa - 02-11-2008, 01:31 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Skandranon - 02-11-2008, 01:34 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Jester - 02-11-2008, 05:04 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Skandranon - 02-11-2008, 06:09 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Sheep - 02-11-2008, 08:13 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Kevin - 02-11-2008, 08:57 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Taelas - 02-11-2008, 12:12 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Quark - 02-11-2008, 01:32 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Mavfin - 02-11-2008, 02:01 PM
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Patch 2.4 Notes - by Monkey - 02-11-2008, 10:21 PM
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Patch 2.4 Notes - by Skandranon - 02-12-2008, 01:07 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Mavfin - 02-12-2008, 02:38 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Concillian - 02-12-2008, 06:08 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Delc - 02-12-2008, 06:50 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by NiteFox - 02-12-2008, 07:09 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by LavCat - 02-12-2008, 08:21 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Artega - 02-12-2008, 08:31 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Mordekhuul - 02-12-2008, 09:10 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Monkey - 02-13-2008, 01:15 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by TheDragoon - 02-13-2008, 02:46 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Mordekhuul - 02-13-2008, 06:28 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by oldmandennis - 02-13-2008, 11:05 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Skandranon - 02-13-2008, 11:16 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by oldmandennis - 02-14-2008, 12:25 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Mavfin - 02-14-2008, 03:30 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Jester - 02-14-2008, 03:58 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Mavfin - 02-14-2008, 04:29 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Warlock - 02-14-2008, 05:50 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Taelas - 02-14-2008, 06:03 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Warlock - 02-14-2008, 11:58 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Taelas - 02-14-2008, 12:19 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by oldmandennis - 02-14-2008, 06:55 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Taelas - 02-15-2008, 10:47 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by oldmandennis - 02-15-2008, 05:40 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Skandranon - 02-15-2008, 09:34 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by oldmandennis - 02-15-2008, 10:10 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Taelas - 02-15-2008, 10:48 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Jester - 02-16-2008, 12:19 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Concillian - 02-16-2008, 12:34 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Skandranon - 02-16-2008, 02:02 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Skandranon - 02-16-2008, 02:20 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Taelas - 02-16-2008, 03:12 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by oldmandennis - 02-19-2008, 09:42 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Monkey - 02-19-2008, 10:17 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Mordekhuul - 02-19-2008, 10:33 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Lissa - 02-19-2008, 10:42 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Mordekhuul - 02-20-2008, 12:04 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Skandranon - 02-20-2008, 12:36 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Skandranon - 02-20-2008, 12:39 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Kevin - 02-20-2008, 12:52 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Concillian - 02-20-2008, 01:02 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Jester - 02-20-2008, 01:16 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Skandranon - 02-20-2008, 01:38 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Jester - 02-20-2008, 01:47 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by oldmandennis - 02-20-2008, 09:44 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Jester - 02-20-2008, 10:05 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Mordekhuul - 02-20-2008, 04:18 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Warlock - 02-20-2008, 09:14 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Gorthag - 02-22-2008, 03:18 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Sir_Die_alot - 02-22-2008, 04:25 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Mordekhuul - 02-22-2008, 05:22 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by lorecraft - 02-25-2008, 07:36 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by lorecraft - 02-25-2008, 07:43 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Monkey - 02-26-2008, 03:29 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Icebird - 02-26-2008, 11:54 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Bolty - 02-27-2008, 06:53 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Taelas - 02-27-2008, 10:29 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Mavfin - 02-27-2008, 03:21 PM

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