Undocumented 2.2 Features

[Kevin]

But that would not really explain why I have won about 80% of AV's since the last patch went in and AFKers are getting the no-honor debuff compared to 0% before. I generally saw quite a few more AFKers than you seem to (at least 10) so perhaps that's the difference.

That said, the losses that I have seen since the patch are usually the result of the terrain allowing a small alliance defense group to have a large effect on defense, but that often also has to do with a lack of healers on the horde side or just a lack of quality DPS players.

Horde side in Reckoning before the changes to the honor system tended to win 60%+ of the AV's as there were not a lot of AFK folks and playing defense would get you lots of honor kills and hence big honor which would let you climb rank. It wasn't until after they put in the honor system that horde started to lose AV all the time as the honor farmers learned that it was just easier/faster to get honor that way.

Part of the problem on Reckoning is that I saw folks that were in some of the top arena teams (rankings over 2K in some cases) that were doing the AFKaving. Many of the horde folks that weren't even trying in AV were decked out in gladiator gear and had 1800+ arena rankings. So good horde players were playing. I usually say 10-20 afk, and 4-8 of them were generally very well geared and many a few of those were skilled players.

Horde also never got partial premades in AV in Reckoning before the change. I think you were there for some of the matches where we got 5-10 Lurkers in an AV on AV weekend and even with 5-15 AFK folks (less AFK with getting 25% of the horde side for one group) we ended up going like 5 and 3. And the losses were generally closer.

Well that's happening again. I've seen bonechewer and dragonmaw partial premades several times.

The number of people not playing is down to 1-5 now as well, so you have 5-15 more people that are playing at least half heartedly and you have a much higher chance of getting into an AV with 5-10 people that are coordinating. Then you add onto that, that alliance is not used to horde even trying and the shock factor messed some of them up.

The wins are coming less frequently than they were at first for me but the honor is way better since we generally at least get most of the bonus honor objectives now. But yeah I'm still at 70% clip right now.