12-05-2008, 11:43 PM
Quote:See, that's my problem with a lot of the achievement chasing. If one person screws up, bam, that's it for the week's shot @ Immortal - might as well hearth and log off, god knows you don't need the gear to do anything meaningful.
SWP and hard raid encounters were different, because you have more than one chance at it! One person screws up, ok, it wipes the raid. You're only limited in # of attempts by the hours you're willing to raid. Achievement chasing, and their little brother timed runs, put a definite, and low, ceiling on the number of attempts you can make. Screw up your one chance, and see you next week.
That's boring. Can you image the sheer outrage if you only had one attempt at a boss and he despawned until maintenance? Well, that's what us at the high end are running into now. Bosses done with enrages, buffs, raid debuffed, extra ability, 20-manned, all that jazz - fine. You have unlimited shots at those. Honestly, it doesn't interest me, but that's likely because of my kneejerk eye-rolling reaction to the word "achievement", courtesy of X-Box Live and Steam.
I guess I'm in the top 5%, then, because I've already cancelled. I've gotten all I'm willing to get from WotLK without shoving thumbscrews into my brain. And that's saying something from someone who was chasing realm firsts in the original SSC - I missed the original Gruul, and I'm sorry I did! Original un-nerfed Hydross? Bring it on. Vashj double spawned? Twice the loot, we get to practice some more this week for free!
I can understand Blizzard's decision, and this isn't a nerdrage hate post, despite the tone. They have to cater to the lowest common denominator. It's just that I fell through the cracks of their marketing department - and they likely knew I would, or at least some like me, going in.
I really don't see the difference between stupidly hard achievements and stupidly hard raid encounters in this case really. If one person screws up in a lot of the encounters folks point to it was a wipe. So you spend time and resources to get ready to go again and folks screw up again. And again. Repeat as many times as you wish. Yeah you probably will eventually down the boss (but not all - Vashj, Kael, and Archi have far too many guild kills to their record) but how is that any different than running Naxx 10/25 until folks are perfect and you get the achievement? Yeah if you screw up you're done until next week - but last I checked Blizz wasn't done creating content and encounters for us.