Super-guild has already cleared Naxx

[Pantalaimon]

but how is that any different than running Naxx 10/25 until folks are perfect and you get the achievement?

Because you only get that perfect attempt once every, what, forty? That's the reality of twenty five people doing hundreds of actions for ten minutes, mortal or not - it's a game of probabilities. Sure, we're not *likely* to screw up, but it happens. At least at the start.

One out of forty attempts will be perfect: for twins, maybe a solid week. For Mu'ru, better make it two or three - sixty, eighty, over a hundred attempts. If that were an achievement? A hundred weeks... two years? World of difference between annoying as all hell and motivatingly difficult.

Yes, Mavfin, I wasn't looking for sympathy. As I stated, I'll deal and move on... annoyingly enough, though, for a PvE MMO WoW is pretty much it. Better learn to PvP or play single player:P