06-22-2007, 06:38 AM
I, in no way, want to get into an argument exchange...
Have you or anyone else ever been there done that in regards to going with a game-friend and helping their guild out with a run because a rostered guildie couldn't make it for one reason or another??? Because if you have, it is just that, helping out... and in return, if a drop drops that they can use, they typically, and in this case as well, get that drop... What is wrong with that? Nothing... However, my ill-fated facts simply lead to the point, that that help was and is wonderful, I, nor did I see anyone else, saying that a non-guild - non-alliance member could not go, but when it comes to rostering, guild/alliance members take priority... to me, that is simple... I cannot see a viable debate for that... and, if re-explaining the instance/encounter is an - or the - issue because someone from that guild or alliance has not been there before, I, personally, would be happy to explain it, I would even do it in whispers while we are setting up, so as to not waiste time... I really don't see the issue there either... sorry, I just don't...
And, as far as those who did come and help, if I, and others were not clear in other posts, Thank you... from the bottom of our gaming hearts, thank you... You did come, help get the raid off-the-ground, and that is greatly appreciated... but, to my recollection... you were not mistreated, were not overlooked for loot - the shinies :-) - nor were you told by me, an officer, nor anyone else that you were not welcome, in fact it is just the opposite... 'because' you helped, you are always welcome, to help and to get loot for your efforts... What I did see, however, was people simply asking the question why do guild-members simply not get 'priority' for sign-ups? Which, is a valid question, for both short and long term, and for Kara, and end-game runs... Again, to me simple...
And, to my Son's "ill-fated" run... it was our first run... it wasn't ill-fated at all; it was not only a learning experience, it was working out schedules, coming together as a team, and moving forward... it was simply the start, that's all...
There is no malicious activities, no putting anyone down, nor was there anyone saying that anyone who joined our raids did not do 'their' job... None of that happened... and the reaction from you, and a couple others, in my humble opinion, was the over-reacting... ie, there was absolutely no reason to bash the GM, or any other officer... why would one even find that necessary...??? the answer is, at this point, it doesn't matter... it's over... nonetheless from the guildmembers to the non-guildmembers, from the tanks to the healers and everyone in between, we did a good job... we got to see some parts of the game, that some of us had never seen... we all participated, and we all did well... and, my personal opinion, which I feel that I am entitled to, just as anyone else is, that Guild members, IF there is appropriate gamers, in the appropriate positions, should receive "prioroty" invites, IF they signed up... Then, if they are late, don't show, leave early, etc... etc... we go to the waitlist, which, in this scenario, would be a combination of both guild and non-guild members... again, for me, simple. And, again, I am not an officer here, I am a proud guild member, that is simple, and that is it... this, as well as my other post, is simply my opinion, my view, which is what - and all - that I am entitled to :-) This is also my last post - or response on the subject... I am undergeared, but ready for another run at Kara next week, hopefully we can gather 9 other gamers, in the right positions, to go have some fun exploring, and learn the mobs, bosses, instance while we are at it :-)
Have fun all, cya in game!
-Magix
Have you or anyone else ever been there done that in regards to going with a game-friend and helping their guild out with a run because a rostered guildie couldn't make it for one reason or another??? Because if you have, it is just that, helping out... and in return, if a drop drops that they can use, they typically, and in this case as well, get that drop... What is wrong with that? Nothing... However, my ill-fated facts simply lead to the point, that that help was and is wonderful, I, nor did I see anyone else, saying that a non-guild - non-alliance member could not go, but when it comes to rostering, guild/alliance members take priority... to me, that is simple... I cannot see a viable debate for that... and, if re-explaining the instance/encounter is an - or the - issue because someone from that guild or alliance has not been there before, I, personally, would be happy to explain it, I would even do it in whispers while we are setting up, so as to not waiste time... I really don't see the issue there either... sorry, I just don't...
And, as far as those who did come and help, if I, and others were not clear in other posts, Thank you... from the bottom of our gaming hearts, thank you... You did come, help get the raid off-the-ground, and that is greatly appreciated... but, to my recollection... you were not mistreated, were not overlooked for loot - the shinies :-) - nor were you told by me, an officer, nor anyone else that you were not welcome, in fact it is just the opposite... 'because' you helped, you are always welcome, to help and to get loot for your efforts... What I did see, however, was people simply asking the question why do guild-members simply not get 'priority' for sign-ups? Which, is a valid question, for both short and long term, and for Kara, and end-game runs... Again, to me simple...
And, to my Son's "ill-fated" run... it was our first run... it wasn't ill-fated at all; it was not only a learning experience, it was working out schedules, coming together as a team, and moving forward... it was simply the start, that's all...
There is no malicious activities, no putting anyone down, nor was there anyone saying that anyone who joined our raids did not do 'their' job... None of that happened... and the reaction from you, and a couple others, in my humble opinion, was the over-reacting... ie, there was absolutely no reason to bash the GM, or any other officer... why would one even find that necessary...??? the answer is, at this point, it doesn't matter... it's over... nonetheless from the guildmembers to the non-guildmembers, from the tanks to the healers and everyone in between, we did a good job... we got to see some parts of the game, that some of us had never seen... we all participated, and we all did well... and, my personal opinion, which I feel that I am entitled to, just as anyone else is, that Guild members, IF there is appropriate gamers, in the appropriate positions, should receive "prioroty" invites, IF they signed up... Then, if they are late, don't show, leave early, etc... etc... we go to the waitlist, which, in this scenario, would be a combination of both guild and non-guild members... again, for me, simple. And, again, I am not an officer here, I am a proud guild member, that is simple, and that is it... this, as well as my other post, is simply my opinion, my view, which is what - and all - that I am entitled to :-) This is also my last post - or response on the subject... I am undergeared, but ready for another run at Kara next week, hopefully we can gather 9 other gamers, in the right positions, to go have some fun exploring, and learn the mobs, bosses, instance while we are at it :-)
Have fun all, cya in game!
-Magix
-Magix
Drexler: {P}Tank / {S}Ret-A-Din
Nightmagix: DK: DPS / Tank
NatureMagix: Elemental / Healer
Nightshiftr: Boomkin / Healer
Sharpeyez: {Human} Hunter
ShadowMagix: Warlock: DPS / Leveling
Drexler: {P}Tank / {S}Ret-A-Din
Nightmagix: DK: DPS / Tank
NatureMagix: Elemental / Healer
Nightshiftr: Boomkin / Healer
Sharpeyez: {Human} Hunter
ShadowMagix: Warlock: DPS / Leveling