05-22-2007, 09:02 PM
Quote:Actually, raiding Paladin tanks usually do not rely on procs to push crushing blows off the hit table. Most of raid tanking is currently tuned to deal huge spikes of damage when *no* crits or crushing blows are landing. When those are allowed to land at all, they are usually the death knell to the tank. Sure, you might survive some of those big hits if you can't get rid of them all, but at some point there will be a burst of damage that will knock out the tank without any possible way for the tank or healers to compensate. Any non-zero random element like that usually means a wipe given the long duration boss fights that the game has, currently, thus it become imperative that you completely mitigate all chance of being crit or crushed. Therefore, paladins end up having to grab all of the block/dodge/parry/miss that they can (they need a combined ~68% plus the +5% shield block libram) to make sure they don't have to rely on procs (hence why many feel Redoubt is pretty close to useless as a talent for raid tanking). That's what you should compare to the Warrior's ~28% requirement to negate crushing blows. :)Why exactly would they require a total of 103% to push off crushing blows when 100% does it just fine?
Anyway, you're right; I completely forgot that.:)
Quote:Also throw in the fact that there will basically always be a period of time when Paladins are crushable as they go to refresh holy shield (its duration is equal to its cooldown whereas a Warrior's shield block has a longer duration than cooldown) and I think it's safe to say that Warriors are the class that has the best capability for dealing with crushing blows.You're forgetting an important point: The durations of these abilities are determined solely by the attack speed of the boss involved.
If the boss has a 2 sec attack speed, Shield Block will not block every third hit even when spammed. Holy Shield will not block every fifth hit.
If the boss has a 3 sec attack speed, Shield Block will block every hit, and so will Holy Shield... and it even has a charge left when the duration runs out.
So no, they don't.:)Paladins (who have stacked avoidance till 65%+ as well as the +5% block libram) are more reliable in a crushing blow situation.
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