04-30-2007, 04:55 AM
After several weeks where we had one Friday raidlock do well and the other in a wipefest, the raid leaders have decided to take a break from raiding and re-visit gearing up.
While we're happy to see progress, and we are clearly able to make 2 discrete raidlocks that can clear to Curator, we want to be able get more consistency.
We aren't necessarily blaming gearing or raid leadership or any one thing in particular. Truthfully I don't think we are totally clear on what is causing the issues. However, we do know that gearing up DPS classes will make encounters easier just because there is less time for mistakes and such. It's also clear with the experience we have with Curator that that fight is very much dependent on DPS... you need a certain threshold of DPS to kill the adds, and any level above that is able to go onto the boss. Because of the initial threshold, a 100 DPS improvement in overall raid DPS could translate to a very, very signficant improvement on what actually gets on the boss.
At the same time as these issues are draining to the people who have gotten unlucky with ending up in troubled raids several weeks, raid leaders are a bit exhausted by spending considerable effort to come up with what they believe the best distribution of the people among the 2 raidlocks, only to see a huge disparity in what each is able to achieve.
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So at this point we are taking a break from raiding. One week, possibly two. We'd like to see as much progress as possible during this haitus in gearing the least well geared folk.
What we're hoping (and we have no reason to believe this won't happen), is that the well geared folk will offer as much help as possible with helping out the less well geared folk.
However, an integral part of this is to have the people with needs speaking up. We can't help what we don't know about, so please don't be afraid to ask for help if you have a significant shortcoming.
There is a great deal of GOOD blue gear available from questing. I have compiled a list of quest lines with blue rewards in Blade's Edge, Netherstorm and Shadowmoon Valley. While these aren't always the "ideal" piece of gear for a particular gear spot, they are the easiest way to get guaranteed rewards. We all know that the randomness of loot dropping doesn't always cooperate with desires for gear. How many Shadow Labs runs have there been vs. warriors with Bold Shoulders? How many Black Morass runs did RTM make for his off-hand sword he wanted? Please consider these quests due to the guaranteed nature of the rewards. I'll post it tomorrow in this thread because it's on my work computer, I forgot to email it to myself on Friday.
In the absence of someone with a specific gearing request, we'd like to see focus on heroic keys. At last check, I saw 16 mains without all 5 heroic keys... 11 needing 3 or more.
While we're happy to see progress, and we are clearly able to make 2 discrete raidlocks that can clear to Curator, we want to be able get more consistency.
We aren't necessarily blaming gearing or raid leadership or any one thing in particular. Truthfully I don't think we are totally clear on what is causing the issues. However, we do know that gearing up DPS classes will make encounters easier just because there is less time for mistakes and such. It's also clear with the experience we have with Curator that that fight is very much dependent on DPS... you need a certain threshold of DPS to kill the adds, and any level above that is able to go onto the boss. Because of the initial threshold, a 100 DPS improvement in overall raid DPS could translate to a very, very signficant improvement on what actually gets on the boss.
At the same time as these issues are draining to the people who have gotten unlucky with ending up in troubled raids several weeks, raid leaders are a bit exhausted by spending considerable effort to come up with what they believe the best distribution of the people among the 2 raidlocks, only to see a huge disparity in what each is able to achieve.
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So at this point we are taking a break from raiding. One week, possibly two. We'd like to see as much progress as possible during this haitus in gearing the least well geared folk.
What we're hoping (and we have no reason to believe this won't happen), is that the well geared folk will offer as much help as possible with helping out the less well geared folk.
However, an integral part of this is to have the people with needs speaking up. We can't help what we don't know about, so please don't be afraid to ask for help if you have a significant shortcoming.
There is a great deal of GOOD blue gear available from questing. I have compiled a list of quest lines with blue rewards in Blade's Edge, Netherstorm and Shadowmoon Valley. While these aren't always the "ideal" piece of gear for a particular gear spot, they are the easiest way to get guaranteed rewards. We all know that the randomness of loot dropping doesn't always cooperate with desires for gear. How many Shadow Labs runs have there been vs. warriors with Bold Shoulders? How many Black Morass runs did RTM make for his off-hand sword he wanted? Please consider these quests due to the guaranteed nature of the rewards. I'll post it tomorrow in this thread because it's on my work computer, I forgot to email it to myself on Friday.
In the absence of someone with a specific gearing request, we'd like to see focus on heroic keys. At last check, I saw 16 mains without all 5 heroic keys... 11 needing 3 or more.
Conc / Concillian -- Vintage player of many games. Deadly leader of the All Pally Team (or was it Death leader?)
Terenas WoW player... while we waited for Diablo III.
And it came... and it went... and I played Hearthstone longer than Diablo III.
Terenas WoW player... while we waited for Diablo III.
And it came... and it went... and I played Hearthstone longer than Diablo III.