Nightbane

[Lissa]

Like GG, I probably shouldn't be responding to this thread, but I feel I needed to point something out:

Please don't spread misinformation. Those fights are designed to have certain abilities available.

The fact that Shackle is simply the most direct ability of CC on Moroes adds' does not mean it was built assuming one would be along. I'm mildly suprised to hear you feel you need to have three specific classes on Netherspite when, with mediorce raid composition, no voice communication, and people that didn't know each other all that well, we've defeated him during a beta semi-pickup run. He's an execution fight, I don't feel that saying it's built to have *those classes* along is wise as it's likely to close peoples' minds to variance in [e.g. what class eats what beam]. From what I observed Blizzard has not been designing TBC fights with specific specs/classes along. It sure as hell IS easier to drop Netherspite with a warlock along, but that doesn't mean it's "required" in any sense of the definition.

Cheers,
~Frag B)

Actually, I would disagree with the bolded. Blizzard is designing these fights based on having one of each class making up your raid with a filler of some kind. Blizzard did not leave much leeway in a number of fights if you don't have a certain class along for the ablities that class presents. Try Netherspite without atleast one Warlock in the blue beam and then with a Warlock in the blue beam. The healers do have to pay attention to the person in the blue beam, but if it's a Warlock they don't have to worry as much because the Warlock will be self healing through use of Drain Life where other classes will require a lot of attention. That are several fights in Karazhan that if you don't have that class ability you're in for a world of hurt. (The only fights I can definitely say for sure that what classes you bring makes little difference in difficulty would be Attumen, Maiden, Curator, Illhoof, and Prince, the other fights become significantly easier if you have the right class there or mixed your group with one of everything with a filler.)