The trailers for 300 have me pumped
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Quote:And if the Spartans were such bad assed warriors, how come the 'decadent' Athenians (lovers of arts, poetry, and intellect) kept whooping Spartan ass -- last I checked it was Athens, not Sparta that won the Peloponnesian wars. And while Athens survived as a city from antiquity till the present, Sparta just faded into obscurity.

Pete, I understand your anti-Spartan sentiment and by no means am I going to try to change it. But at the same time on this particular fact, you may want to brush up on your Thucydides a bit (and a few other sources, following Greek history from 411 til about 370). There certainly are examples of Athens 'whooping Spartan ass', but there's some pretty big examples of the opposite being true as well.

Let me be clear, I'm not trying to launch into a nitpick of your post by any means. And in turn, I understand if it was more of an off hand comment, not one to look too deeply into. :)

And for what it's worth, the Spartan 300 did have a relatively big effect on the history of Greece and the Persian invasions. Though of course, that history is washed aside for a comic based (incredibly loose) interpretation.

Cheers,

Munk

PS. Personally I'm still pumped for the movie, even though that does mean Leonidas will become a less open account name. Sigh. So be the times;)

EDIT: Although your objections to the Spartan treatment of the Helots is fair, don't lose sight of the Athenian standard as well. Specifically, look into the Silver Mines they employed starting under Themistocles (~495 BCE). The Athenians had no problem sending in children into the small mine shafts. Especially when their enslaved parents died an early death due to the mines.
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The trailers for 300 have me pumped - by DeeBye - 02-05-2007, 02:29 AM
The trailers for 300 have me pumped - by Bun-Bun - 02-05-2007, 05:06 PM
The trailers for 300 have me pumped - by Yrrek - 02-07-2007, 02:49 PM
The trailers for 300 have me pumped - by --Pete - 02-11-2007, 02:31 AM
The trailers for 300 have me pumped - by DeeBye - 02-11-2007, 04:00 AM
The trailers for 300 have me pumped - by Munkay - 02-11-2007, 10:07 PM
The trailers for 300 have me pumped - by Munkay - 02-12-2007, 07:21 PM
The trailers for 300 have me pumped - by Munkay - 02-13-2007, 02:46 PM
The trailers for 300 have me pumped - by Thenryb - 02-13-2007, 11:46 PM
The trailers for 300 have me pumped - by DeeBye - 02-14-2007, 05:31 AM
The trailers for 300 have me pumped - by DeeBye - 02-14-2007, 05:38 AM
The trailers for 300 have me pumped - by Guest - 02-23-2007, 08:58 AM
The trailers for 300 have me pumped - by MonTy - 03-11-2007, 11:24 PM
The trailers for 300 have me pumped - by MonTy - 03-12-2007, 12:05 AM
The trailers for 300 have me pumped - by WarLocke - 03-16-2007, 07:08 PM
The trailers for 300 have me pumped - by Munkay - 03-19-2007, 07:26 PM
The trailers for 300 have me pumped - by Munkay - 03-19-2007, 09:04 PM
The trailers for 300 have me pumped - by gekko - 03-19-2007, 09:16 PM
The trailers for 300 have me pumped - by Doc - 03-20-2007, 05:05 PM
The trailers for 300 have me pumped - by WarLocke - 03-20-2007, 08:04 PM
The trailers for 300 have me pumped - by Munkay - 03-21-2007, 12:54 AM
The trailers for 300 have me pumped - by Munkay - 03-21-2007, 12:55 AM

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