05-29-2003, 12:36 AM
Some thoughts;
My very first expansion character was an assassin, Kia Kitana now lvl 78... She had many struggles, and finally resorted to learning Traps to progress thru Hell difficulty... It would be nice to have Phoenix Strike a viable high level skill.
It appears they have added some things that some may have missed... He appears to have only a few actual points into FOF, COT and BOI. Prior GF posts indicatd that interaction bonuses would only apply to actually assigned skills, not + skills items. However, I have my doubts.
Fire damage; It shows he has +7 skills -- this applies to PS but not the bonuses, ergo since he has 3 skills points in FOF, he should get x1.3 fire damage. 787/1.3 = 605 - 685. My calculation (which may be wrong) show PS fire damage past lvl 20 getting +30 per level, so +210 min/max. 370-390 +210 = 580 - 600, so it appears there is 25 min - 85 max difference. Maybe I have the lvl 27 base wrong, maybe they bumped it up a bit, or maybe the +7 skills is really a factor in calculating the FOF bonus.
Thinking purely from within the known and published on the summit. If one were to allocate 10 FOF, 20 COT, 10 BOI, and 20 PS. It appears to me that having a Level 20 PS with lvl 10 FOF could produce a Meteor 1160 - 1200 + maybe 1500 - 2000 per sec (for 3 secs, I think) Is this New?! Fire splash dmg, or are they just exposing dmg #'s that were already there?. Seems to be higher than the Meteor dmg. I think this is pressing close to a high level sorceress meteor with lvl 10 mastery, with a mana cost of 4.
First I am assuming that the COT value in the picture (which you cannot see) is not as low, maybe 13 or 14. 1751/ (1+.13 x 14) = 1151. It appears that unless my assumption on the COT value is wrong, that they have doubled the base max lightning dmg per level (just a guess, but at level 20 PS lightning may now be something 1 - 700 ). Ergo, (mostly guessing then) a level 20 PS with lvl 20 COT may produce a Chain Lightning of 700 * 3.6 (.13 x 20 +1 ) = 2520. Big!
You can make out the leading one at least, so I'm thinking he has 3 to 5 points in BOI, say 4. This base dmg does not to have appeared to changed upwards. 364-399 / 1.4 = 260 - 285 at lvl 27 seems improved slightly as well, since currently it appears that at lvl 20 you chaos ice bolt dmg of 156-172 (+20 /lvl) or his perhaps his BOI is lower than I think. Using current PS cold dmg 231 - 251 * 2 (.1 * 10 + 1) gives 462 - 502 Chaos Ice bolt. Again, nearing max sorceress frozen orb, with maxed cold mastery.
So, my conclusion is that I think that + skills will apply to skill interaction bonues, or they have made things so much more difficult that all skills are now vastly increased in power.
Then again, with nightmare and hell difficulties substantially increased, maybe this is neccesary to survive... shudder....
As for Natalya's Odium rendering one more transparent... >pfft< Unless Nats claws drop more frequently, I'd be better off buying a lottery ticket with the time/effort wasted trying to find them... Again, the dupers will win this one. I have found the other three on my own, and I feel it would be a personal victory to find the complete set. But, again, I will probably see pigs fly first.
My very first expansion character was an assassin, Kia Kitana now lvl 78... She had many struggles, and finally resorted to learning Traps to progress thru Hell difficulty... It would be nice to have Phoenix Strike a viable high level skill.
It appears they have added some things that some may have missed... He appears to have only a few actual points into FOF, COT and BOI. Prior GF posts indicatd that interaction bonuses would only apply to actually assigned skills, not + skills items. However, I have my doubts.
Fire damage; It shows he has +7 skills -- this applies to PS but not the bonuses, ergo since he has 3 skills points in FOF, he should get x1.3 fire damage. 787/1.3 = 605 - 685. My calculation (which may be wrong) show PS fire damage past lvl 20 getting +30 per level, so +210 min/max. 370-390 +210 = 580 - 600, so it appears there is 25 min - 85 max difference. Maybe I have the lvl 27 base wrong, maybe they bumped it up a bit, or maybe the +7 skills is really a factor in calculating the FOF bonus.
Thinking purely from within the known and published on the summit. If one were to allocate 10 FOF, 20 COT, 10 BOI, and 20 PS. It appears to me that having a Level 20 PS with lvl 10 FOF could produce a Meteor 1160 - 1200 + maybe 1500 - 2000 per sec (for 3 secs, I think) Is this New?! Fire splash dmg, or are they just exposing dmg #'s that were already there?. Seems to be higher than the Meteor dmg. I think this is pressing close to a high level sorceress meteor with lvl 10 mastery, with a mana cost of 4.
First I am assuming that the COT value in the picture (which you cannot see) is not as low, maybe 13 or 14. 1751/ (1+.13 x 14) = 1151. It appears that unless my assumption on the COT value is wrong, that they have doubled the base max lightning dmg per level (just a guess, but at level 20 PS lightning may now be something 1 - 700 ). Ergo, (mostly guessing then) a level 20 PS with lvl 20 COT may produce a Chain Lightning of 700 * 3.6 (.13 x 20 +1 ) = 2520. Big!
You can make out the leading one at least, so I'm thinking he has 3 to 5 points in BOI, say 4. This base dmg does not to have appeared to changed upwards. 364-399 / 1.4 = 260 - 285 at lvl 27 seems improved slightly as well, since currently it appears that at lvl 20 you chaos ice bolt dmg of 156-172 (+20 /lvl) or his perhaps his BOI is lower than I think. Using current PS cold dmg 231 - 251 * 2 (.1 * 10 + 1) gives 462 - 502 Chaos Ice bolt. Again, nearing max sorceress frozen orb, with maxed cold mastery.
So, my conclusion is that I think that + skills will apply to skill interaction bonues, or they have made things so much more difficult that all skills are now vastly increased in power.
Then again, with nightmare and hell difficulties substantially increased, maybe this is neccesary to survive... shudder....
As for Natalya's Odium rendering one more transparent... >pfft< Unless Nats claws drop more frequently, I'd be better off buying a lottery ticket with the time/effort wasted trying to find them... Again, the dupers will win this one. I have found the other three on my own, and I feel it would be a personal victory to find the complete set. But, again, I will probably see pigs fly first.