12-21-2006, 04:10 PM
Quote:1. There is a simple way to make a premade in AV. All hit join at the same time and all point to the same AV. Done and done. Easy as pie. You've never seen a team of 40 ppl..... all rank 10 or above, with at least 15 rank 12 and above. I see it 5 times/day. Well, up until the patch that is. With the terrain exploit gone, I only see them twice/day, since now instead of 10 min, it takes them 20.
Getting 40 people into the same AV is probably equivalent to hitting the jackpot on your local state lottery. Having said that, what do you expect when you fight 30+ coordinated people versus an unorganized mass?
Quote:2. Defend what? Once Horde just puts the flag in conflict, there is no way to defend. They simply leave 10 outside and go work on Van.... solo. Defending against a good premade before they get the flag requires at least 20 ppl on D. That is called a turtle and while I've been in 2-3 games like this where we actually were able to defend, it took 1.5 hours to win and that is not worth it. This is prepatch naturally.
It will work against a pug. Against a group, I think the outcome is fairly obvious even without any exploits.
Quote:As far as this being unsatisfiying for the Horde... Tell it to all the rank 12+ on those teams. They are pretty happy with their ranks gotten through purely AV exploiting. I'll take my rank 12 over that any time, but they also seem to be happy. I remember one of them telling me on the forums about 2 months ago how I should keep quiet, since they get 200k+/day with this tactic.
Do you honestly think Blizzard cares? There are both horde and alliance exploits that are still unfixed from the beginning of the AV. Truly balancing AV would probably require complete redesign of terrain, bases, and NPC interactions, otherwise one side will always have one large advantage or another.
Quote:Look, unlike most Alliance on the LL, my server has very fast Alliance queues, and I get to play 10-12 AVs/day. I've pugged to rank 12 in almost exclusively AV (without AFKing) and I've pretty much seen it all.
No offense, but you need to play AV more, and then you can comment.
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Again, what in 2 years of playing this game gave you an impression that Blizzard cares about PvP balance? Especially in pretty much designer-abandoned AV.