Quote:Var, if you can't get 1 1 handed weapon in 5 weeks.... I'm flabbergasted by this statement. That's less then 5k per week. These are ezmode epics, not free.
ezmode, free, call it what you will. I like the current system. It's time invested overall, not time crammed into a short space. But your mockery of the amount of time I suppose stems from the fact that you have lots and lots of free time to invest in such things. I envy you.
I agree that these items are/were too cheap (esp. HWL weapons). But that doesn't change that fact that for it to make sense I have to do it now.
So let me redo the calculations for your benefit. I'm assuming I don't quit raiding. Right now raiding is 80% or more of my game time and has been for a while.
I spent 3 hours last night in a "pre-made" doing AB games. We had a good time -- we lose 3-2 to good Alliance pre-mades, but generally clean up even though most of us aren't experienced pvpers and are in a mix of blues to half T2. This is the best situation I could hope for.
I made a total of 1815 honor in those 3 hours. That puts me at 600 honor per hour when I'm in a pre-made. When I'm playing solo, I'd guess at half that. Let's say I can average 500 per hour (I'm really hoping I get to run with groups more often than not, and honor weekends will help a lot, but that will be lucky). I'd say this is decently optimistic.
22500/500 = 45 hours of PvP. Let's start with where I am (I have 4515 honor):
(22500 - 4515)/500 = 36 hours of PvP at 500 honor/hour
I count 34 days (counting tonight). And a good chunk of them are the holidays, with very little WoW time (traveling and staying with relatives). For 10 of them for certain there will be no chance of play.
So 24 days for 36 hours. That's 1.5 hours a day. For you that might be nothing, but for me it's fairly significant. I made almost 5k honor in the past week. Half of that was on the honor weekend before nerf. A significant (majority) portion of my game time was spent PvPing.
If I gave up raiding it'd be really easy -- I figure I raid twice a week (5 hours and 3 hours). But in order to achieve this I will have to get up early or stay up late, and doing PvP at that time means getting honor at a much lower rate.
Given your item comparisons it is probably worth it though for me. I might make it. If DPS items like this won't be replaced until late 60s it's worth it for me to continue this at a much reduced pace even after TBC. I just need to get reasonably close.
edit: Oh, and last week I missed the 5 hour raid, hence majority of game time spent PvPing makes sense (game time significantly shortened)