11-26-2006, 04:56 PM
I should be there. I figure you'll want Marn, but Kati will be available.
I kinda like hitting Jin'do first because I don't think that fight is as hard as people make it out to be. Yes it takes practice and even if we have a good class mix for it, we will wipe the first couple of times we do it. But that is pretty much true of most encounters that aren't a simple tank and spank and require people to pay attention and have to do more than one or two things. People just need to see it to get it.
I do want us to eventually get to Hakkar as well, which means we need to learn Arlok and Thekal as well at some point but to be honest unless we open these runs up to more than just Lurkers we won't have the time to get all the priests down along with Hakkar. I don't expect us to have the people 2 nights a week out of just Lurkers to continue the raid lock at this stage in the game. I don't see us getting the bosses all learned and the speed fast enough that we can get Jek'lik, Mar'li, Venoxis, Arlok, Thekal, and Hakkar in one night before the expansion. And if we do, will we then still get Mandokir and/or Jin'do for the enchant idol? While we have many people that can use lots of the gear. Currently the idol is the most valuable thing in there for most people. Even if the few of us who have access to, or possess the T2 helm/legs already all have 2 enchants (which I don't think can happen before the expansion anyway), that enchant on a ZG drop for someone can still be as big of an upgrade as another item from there anyway.
I don't see us really getting anyone repped more than about 8K rep more before the expansion either. So how much rep the run yields isn't a consideration for me as to what we do. Getting people to see content they never have is my concern.
I know a lot of Lurkers haven't don Jin'do, Arlok, Thekal, Hakkar, or the Alchemy bosses. As mentioned I don't forsee Hakkar being in the cards unless we do something special to make sure it happens, and even then we would have to do some tricky planning to make sure everyone got a crack at him. Most likely something like killing some bosses on Friday after the Keepers raid, some more Saturday, getting people in way early on Sunday to clear any trash that might be in the way so that we can beeline to whatever bosses when we get the full crew. Doable and worth the effort, but again not sure it's something that can happen as a Lurkers only thing before the expansion anyway.
I kinda like hitting Jin'do first because I don't think that fight is as hard as people make it out to be. Yes it takes practice and even if we have a good class mix for it, we will wipe the first couple of times we do it. But that is pretty much true of most encounters that aren't a simple tank and spank and require people to pay attention and have to do more than one or two things. People just need to see it to get it.
I do want us to eventually get to Hakkar as well, which means we need to learn Arlok and Thekal as well at some point but to be honest unless we open these runs up to more than just Lurkers we won't have the time to get all the priests down along with Hakkar. I don't expect us to have the people 2 nights a week out of just Lurkers to continue the raid lock at this stage in the game. I don't see us getting the bosses all learned and the speed fast enough that we can get Jek'lik, Mar'li, Venoxis, Arlok, Thekal, and Hakkar in one night before the expansion. And if we do, will we then still get Mandokir and/or Jin'do for the enchant idol? While we have many people that can use lots of the gear. Currently the idol is the most valuable thing in there for most people. Even if the few of us who have access to, or possess the T2 helm/legs already all have 2 enchants (which I don't think can happen before the expansion anyway), that enchant on a ZG drop for someone can still be as big of an upgrade as another item from there anyway.
I don't see us really getting anyone repped more than about 8K rep more before the expansion either. So how much rep the run yields isn't a consideration for me as to what we do. Getting people to see content they never have is my concern.
I know a lot of Lurkers haven't don Jin'do, Arlok, Thekal, Hakkar, or the Alchemy bosses. As mentioned I don't forsee Hakkar being in the cards unless we do something special to make sure it happens, and even then we would have to do some tricky planning to make sure everyone got a crack at him. Most likely something like killing some bosses on Friday after the Keepers raid, some more Saturday, getting people in way early on Sunday to clear any trash that might be in the way so that we can beeline to whatever bosses when we get the full crew. Doable and worth the effort, but again not sure it's something that can happen as a Lurkers only thing before the expansion anyway.
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It's all just zeroes and ones and duct tape in the end.
It's all just zeroes and ones and duct tape in the end.