Americans and Religion

[Archon_Wing]

The main complaint I've seen is lack of work ethic--and given there's an entire sub-culture devoted to being lazy, there's something valid to that. Something is deeply wrong when you don't want to give consistent effort at the student and worker level. I know some of the legitimate reasons too and they aren't pretty

Yea, I've seen some of that sentiment. But maybe my complaint happens when it turns into stereotyping and I get told by my family that I shouldn't make friends with people of other ethnicities because they are lazy and have no future. ;p And while our society does have a bunch of lazy bums lying around, there are also many people with a strong work ethic. Americans do work quite a bit of hours on average.

Basically, my intended point was that intolerance is not simply the repetoire of white males. :] We all live in glass houses.

Also, I think it is less morals from diety, to morals from each other. Almost always been more respect for meritocracy (power from ability) than theocracy (power from religious icons).

Why yes, I thought I wrote that in the last post that morals/respect to a deity was less important, but maybe that didn't come out right. Respect one another because it is right (and you want to be respected) as opposed to being sent into a burning stove for all eternity.

Need I remind you religion IS an agenda unto itself, and theocracies still rule some parts of this world. Various governments over history usually, when encountering a religion of opposing agenda, sought to get rid of it, or brokered advantage of religions with similar agendas.

I don't think there's any inconsistiency in anything I said. Maybe my sentence was phrased badly as an afterthought, but it seems unfair to classify religion as such. Certainly religon can be used as an agenda, but people may use religon as a reflection of tradition and morals. Now, just because certain individuals have used religion as an excuse to maintain control over people does not mean religion itself is bad. When times change, things evolve. You could say that the values are being updated in a modern context to fit into the secular agenda of the Communist party. As in, you could say that Communism is being created as a religon of some kind (Mao's cult of personality, no?) Obviously things have toned down, as I gave the reasons at the last post.

Rebranding, I scoff at that. I say Mao was right when he said, "Religion is the opiate of the people", because an entire wing of religion is a power & control over people agenda.

Well, he stole that from Marx.;)This is true too a certain degree, as many do wallow in ignorance and use religion to justify their means while provoting inaction (The leader is always right) But I still don't believe religion is always a bad agenda.