New Mage Talent Trees Revealed
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Warlock,May 8 2006, 07:53 AM Wrote:I agree that IAE was an essential Mage talent - stand-and-cast like Warlocks do isn't something Mages can do safely (if you count Hellfire as safe!)

If you need rage for Intercept, you're in Beserker and can use Beserker rage (though it is an extra button to hit and an extra global cooldown). If you need it for Mocking blow, you've presumably already blown rage-free Taunt or you'd be in Defensive Stance.

I agree that it's a great talent - just not quite as important to Warriors as IAE was to Mages. In PVE anyhow, where fights are predictable so the Warrior can be in the right stance and building rage before needing a skill use.

One of the most common situations where you would use intercept while tanking would be if your taunt got resisted and you have to chase the mob down. So assuming that you just used up your berserker rage and, considering that your taunt just got resisted and is on cooldown, you need either 1) Mocking Blow, which is in Battle Stance and requires rage that you do not have, 2) Challenging Shout, which again requires rage that you do not have. Ooops.

Even while tanking, you sometimes might want to switch to Battlestance for Thunderclap or Berserker stance for Whirlwind. And this is just one aspect of the warrior play, that requires the least stance-switching, and even there the absence of it is felt. What about the other warriors? You will often have 1 warrior tanking, while the rest of the warriors are left to DPS. Once again they are back to stance-switching.

As I said before, just because you cannot see the benefits of the skill does not mean it's not important. And observing the tanks in a 40-man raid situation, who probably need the least stance-switching, is not exactly a good source of information. Why don't you go PvP with a good warrior and just watch how many times they switch between stances. It's not a "great" talent, it's an essential talent. You keep talking like you have actually played a warrior with and without TM when you clearly have not.

And in case you are wondering, this is not a new complaint - it's actually probably over a year old now.
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New Mage Talent Trees Revealed - by MongoJerry - 05-04-2006, 05:09 PM
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