04-18-2006, 06:40 PM
Chaerophon,Apr 18 2006, 11:16 AM Wrote:I'm not sure that I see the relationship. The natives were forcibly taken from their parents in order to fulfill an assimilationist ideal. That is a first step in making someone a ward of the state: replacing the parent with a state organ, in this case apparently schools. This appears -- the details are not in my kit bag so I could have this horribly wrong -- to be a typically "progressive" style gambit inspired by the standard meddler's rationalizations. Do you have a link that explains the program? (If I understand your correctly, the program is now a piece of history. )
Quote:I'm talking about certain kinds of affirmative action and education programs, welfare benefits, etc. The state would not be "raising children".The fine line between interference and assistance? The state has never raised children, but it has, through various Foster and Orphan administration programs, taken on guardianship, wardship, to one degree or another. Strangely in my country, the adoption process -- a process that removes the State from a guardianship role -- is hamstrung by a horde of do government and other do-gooders who bog down the pathway for childless couples to adopt children.
Quote:One of the "Big Lies" that I like to talk about is the dramatic ways in which isolated anecdotal evidence is used to proliferate the idea that social welfare "creates" massive amounts of welfare bums. The fact is, the impact of "abusers" on society is far less than the "think tank perception" tells us. What it does is give those with the initiative the opportunity to excape their circumstances through hard work. If there is some inefficiency in the system, I personally think that it is worth it.[right][snapback]107589[/snapback][/right]
Isolated anecdotes? Interesting generalization.
Dependency is the core issue, and the institutionalization of the hand out rather than the hand up, the latter of which Conservatives down here find a suitable investment in our future. The Dole has an unsavory reputation when matched against the core cultural work ethic.
Put in a different light: why are some cities packed with unemployed folks when there is work along the border in the agricultural business? What mindset necessitates an urban imperative as the source of solutions? Why must the migration to the cities be a one way flow?
Occhi
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In War, the outcome is never final. --Carl von Clausewitz--
Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum
John 11:35 - consider why.
In Memory of Pete