NeverDeath

[Occhidiangela]

MONSTER DAMAGE:
Moon lord: 74-139
Thorned Hulk (actV): 81-145 / 68-136
Minion of Destruction: 83-135 / 83-145
Venom Lord (Ventar's minions): 108-189 (OUCH)

Do dissapoint me, but at the moment it seems like a powerful character.
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Here is a disappointment, one which has not yet been raised.

Frenzy

Two of your monsters in an MLVL of 80 will have Frenzy at slvl 20. Let's look at Moon Lords and Thorned Hulks with Frenzy in that region, Hell Difficulty.
(I am presuming mlvl/4 for skill base, please adjust if I have erred

EDIT: From AS, skills are a +7. +7 from what, I wonder? Even if we assume Frenzy at about level 10, you are still getting a healthy damage above and beyond -DR totals to chip away at your red ball in the magnitudes of a hundred to hundreds of points at a time. The rumor that Frenzy does not add extra damage by monsters has either been, or not been, checked out. ?? )

Damage: +185 percent
That means the damage per hit (see AR boost below) is 74-139(1 + 1.85) = 210.9-396.15) Double that for Champions. 421.8-792.3.

Taking 178 off of that doesn't look as shiny, does it?

What sort of life ball do you need to avoid being put into hit recovery? A few thousand? The assassin postulated later in the discussion starts to need % DR, from Fade perhaps, as well as -DR.

You are more likely to get hit as well.

Attack: +233 percent
Attack Speed: +7-42 percent
{Walk/Run Speed: +47-171 percent & Mana Cost: 3} tend to be irrelevant.

While it only makes the red ball shrink at a slower rate, -% damage reduction becomes a bit more attractive as an adjunct to this framework.

Deleting 160 or so points from 200 - 400 points of damage is certainly nice, before Curse or Decrep is accounted for.

Then there are "Extra Strong" and minions to consider.

My key concern with Frenzy is the rapid arrival of the blows.

The monster damage isn't the problem per se, Frenzy is the problem with this build.

Battle Cry is, IMO, the key skill to making this build very hard to damage. Or, maxed out Taunt for normal monsters and Battle Cry for Bosses.

Likewise, Bone Armor for the Necro.

I like Crystallion's idea about applying this framework to a Hurricane Druid, Cyclone Armor, and "stay away." The -DR nicely neutralizes the garden variety archers (who can't frenzy) who about in various Hell locales.

Countess Runs, anyone?

Occhi